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Hi, i saw a Conn for selling, it is a Tenor Sax M44XXX
What i could is that it is from 69's....

What kind of model is it?
Is it a Pro Model?
How is the market cost of a horn like this?

thanks

the seller says is pre mexico...but this also is the year when the production moved...so is not easy to see if it is or not...
 

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Does it have shooting stars on the bell? If so, it's likely a late-Elkhart made 16M student model.

Here's a link to a 1960's 16M on eBay. But yours may have sheet-metal key guards. This one has the wire:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1960-Co...503?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230f932b67

The pro-model for this time period will be a late 10M. It should most likely have a brace between the bell and body that has a "C" made into it. It may also have an underslung double-socketed neck.

Here's a late 10M on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Conn-10M-Tenor-Saxophone-/160569129614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2562aa7a8e
 

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Does it have shooting stars on the bell? If so, it's likely a late-Elkhart made 16M student model.

Here's a link to a 1960's 16M on eBay. But yours may have sheet-metal key guards. This one has the wire:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1960-Co...503?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230f932b67

The pro-model for this time period will be a late 10M. It should most likely have a brace between the bell and body that has a "C" made into it. It may also have an underslung double-socketed neck.

Here's a late 10M on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Conn-10M-Tenor-Saxophone-/160569129614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2562aa7a8e

i noticed the 8va key opens below the neck.....
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can't attach the other picss...
 

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The pro-model for this time period will be a late 10M. It should most likely have a brace between the bell and body that has a "C" made into it. It may also have an underslung double-socketed neck.

Here's a late 10M on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Conn-10M-Tenor-Saxophone-/160569129614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2562aa7a8e
That's my auction. Key question SaxTMan is what it says on the back. If it says "10M" its a pro horn. If it says "16M" its a strong intermediate horn (the early 16Ms were very nice players). If it doesn't say anything, its not a 10M.

Underslung neck usually means 10M -- I've never seen an underslung 16M. Although I've heard of a very few 10Ms made in mexico (which were then stamped "MEXICO"), 99% of them were USA made. If it doesn't say "mexico" and is a 10M, its an american pro horn.
 

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SaxTMan -- that's a 10M in your pictures. Nice pro horn, USA made (even though some production had moved to Mexico, the 10Ms were still made here, is my understanding).
 

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Yep,

It's definitely a 10M. Unless it was specifically marked as made in Mexico, it is from Elkhart almost all 10M saxes were.

Here's all the photos the OP sent me:



















 

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thanks it is possible to see elkhart on the bell..
 

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Regardless, it a late-model 10M as noted.
These are VERY good horns. Great way to own a pro-calibre player on the cheap. I have sold 3 of these in the past year...and every client has been absolutely stoked by 'em.
Market value of one in great playing shape is around $800-900. One which needs work, maybe $600 (us dollars).
 

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he was asking 1140$ for the horn... i think is too much for me..
i would pay 700$ if the horn was really good (i could play test)... but not for that price...it would be difficult to sell again if i wanted...
 

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That's not a good price. You can actually pick up a late Naked Lady for that price.

Now.... if you could talk him down to $900.... and he assured you it needs NO work, then that would be a pretty decent price.

Where are you located ? PM me if you are looking for a sub-$1000 Tenor and don't mind transacting online....
 

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$1140 is too high. I sold my '67 10M (like MyMartinTenor's) for $700 a few months ago, in good playing condition. At that price, they are a very good value, as JayeSF says.
 
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