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Just think if only he'd been playing on a Mark VI or Yanagisawa I would have been able to make it through the whole thing. All that damn "fumbling" on an old horn, it's just painful to watch and listen to. :mrgreen:
 

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Hey, I had a 10M for years. Loved the horn for certain things, but when I got a Silversonic tenor, the keywork of the Conn felt clunky in comparison. That doesn't mean you can't make it work. It's just different. But as for the feel of the horn, having rather large hands I never liked modern horns like Yamaha that seemed to put my fingers in places they couldn't fit. The spread keys of the 10M were most welcoming to me in this regard.

So I suppose there are a couple sides of the coin here. How the keywork fits your hands, and how responsive it is. I liked the fit, but the response could be better. That doesn't mean you can't rip on one of these things.
 

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Just think if only he'd been playing on a Mark VI or Yanagisawa I would have been able to make it through the whole thing. All that damn "fumbling" on an old horn, it's just painful to watch and listen too.:mrgreen:
He would'a fumbled more on a Comm 3! :joker:

Looks like Sal had an "off to the side" embouchure. Interesting.
 

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I play on a 10M (no idea what year) but the keywork is horrible for me. I’m constantly struggling with it and my technique is wayyy behind what it is when I play my students’ tenors or my alto. God bless those who can play them well!!
 

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Well, you play the living crap out of both. Is the sound/tonal response that much better on your Conn horns?
Wow, thanks so much! Do you mean better than my alto? Or better than others? I'm actually borrowing both of those Conns from friends (for many years now) - I don't actually own a tenor or C melody! If I were to buy a tenor it would be something much easier to play than a 10M.
 

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Heard Jerry Bergonzi play on a 10M several times as well as a Selmer "Radio" tenor in the last few years. He absolutely killed it on each horn. He likes the older larger bore horns. I asked him about the ergonomics and keywork. He said..... you get used to it in 2 weeks.
 

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Hey, I had a 10M for years. Loved the horn for certain things, but when I got a Silversonic tenor, the keywork of the Conn felt clunky in comparison. That doesn't mean you can't make it work. It's just different. But as for the feel of the horn, having rather large hands I never liked modern horns like Yamaha that seemed to put my fingers in places they couldn't fit. The spread keys of the 10M were most welcoming to me in this regard.

So I suppose there are a couple sides of the coin here. How the keywork fits your hands, and how responsive it is. I liked the fit, but the response could be better. That doesn't mean you can't rip on one of these things.
+1 My first tenor was a 10m and I played it for years. Those guys in the big bands (Sal Nistico) were monster players and probably lived with that horn in their hands , night and day. With that being said, nothing at all wrong with a 10m, I sold mine and just prefer Selmer type keywork, even Yamaha keywork (which is based on Selmer keywork) just a better fit for me. Still some local guys where I live playing the heck out of 10m's and sounding great, but many more playing Selmers and modern horns. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Heard Jerry Bergonzi play on a 10M several times as well as a Selmer "Radio" tenor in the last few years. He absolutely killed it on each horn. He likes the older larger bore horns. I asked him about the ergonomics and keywork. He said..... you get used to it in 2 weeks.
He can get used to it in 2 weeks, but not a mere mortal like me!! Bergonzi is a God amongst men, and I'm sure he could make a spatula sound amazing.
 

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Wow, thanks so much! Do you mean better than my alto? Or better than others? I'm actually borrowing both of those Conns from friends (for many years now) - I don't actually own a tenor or C melody! If I were to buy a tenor it would be something much easier to play than a 10M.
Nah, just why you were using them if you have a definite preference for other horns or at the least ergonomics of other horns. The above post satisfies my curiosity. Thanks.
 

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I started on old clunkers like Kings and Conns so I don't have any problems playing them, but why bother when you can have an old Selmer.
Same kind of sound and more comfortable to play.
Well you're entitled to your opinion. Personally I don't feel like over paying for a Selmer that doesn't sound as good or play any better than an old King/Conn/Martin or Buescher. Been there, done that.
Again you're entitled to pay $7k for a SBA or MK VI instead of $2k for a 10M. I know you're just trolling but I like taking the bait sometimes.
 
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