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Hi SOTW Members,

I'd like to share a COMPLETE list of all Yamaha Saxophone model numbers with you.

I'm actually a trumpet player by trade and got bored one day so I decided to compile a complete list of all of the Yamaha trumpet models as it seemed that it hadn't been done before (or recently). Yamaha seemed to list most models, but they were spread across all of their various international websites and not all located in one location. It also quickly became apparent that different sections of the various international Yamaha organisations had different ideas about when certain models were introduced and discontinued. In addition to that there were some models that Yamaha didn't officially list although they certainly existed, not to mention rare limited edition models only ever offered in Japan. After completing the Trumpet model list I have since gone on and completed a list for Trombones, French Horns, Flutes and now Saxophones.

You will see in the list that I try to include at least 2 official Yamaha verification sources for each model, as well as a catalog reference. At the bottom of the list are links to the various Sax related catalogs I have as reference so far. As time permits I will be filling in all of the specific model specifications and details.

For the other instruments I have cataloged so far I have also created a database of Yamaha serial numbers. Yamaha seems to be a bit tight lipped about their serial numbers in general. You can email them at the US Band and Orchestral Division for a date of manufacture for a particular serial but before about 1982 not much is know to them. (They are actually now following these lists and updating their own model/discontinued model lists and links). I will shortly set up a Serial Number Database for the Yamaha Saxophone also. I'm an instrument nerd so am more than happy to do it just for fun or interest sake.

If this list has any errors, typing mistakes, omissions or a new model is released feel free to contact me and I will endeavor to add or correct those details. Just please be kind, as I am a trumpet player after all.

Saxophone
Complete Yamaha SAXOPHONE Model Number List

Flute
Complete Yamaha FLUTE Model Number List

Trumpet
Complete Yamaha TRUMPET Model Number List
Yamaha TRUMPET Serial Number Database
Yamaha TRUMPET Serial Number Database - Submission Form

Trombone
Complete Yamaha TROMBONE Model List
Yamaha TROMBONE Serial Number Database
Yamaha TROMBONE Serial Number Database - Submission Form

French Horn
Complete Yamaha FRENCH HORN Model Number List
Yamaha FRENCH HORN Serial Number Database
Yamaha FRENCH HORN Serial Number Database - Submission Form



Feel free to join me on FaceBook, just search for my FaceBook page "YamahaCollector".

I'm also very appreciative of pdf scans of any Yamaha related marketing material, brochures, catalogs, advertising and even instrument owners manuals. I'm building a back catalog to use as reference for ALL yamaha wind/brass/orchestral instruments, and any I have I am happy to share. I REALLY like hard paper copies of these items but in this day and age I'm more than happy with pdf scans. I can be emailed at:

[email protected]

Cheers
YamahaCollector
 

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Don't share any information with this person, it's really a mole from the Jupiter instrument company trying to gather competitive information!!!


YamahaCollector - thanks for sharing the information. Not sure what the deal is with Yamaha and serial numbers, but it's always been hard to track that info down. I'm the original owner of my purple logo YTS-62, probably had since '81 or so. Great horn.

Thanks again!!!
 

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I have a YAS-23 with a 04xxxx serial number. I remember seeing somewhere it was somewhere in the 80s im not entirely sure.
 

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I have a YAS-23 with a 04xxxx serial number. I remember seeing somewhere it was somewhere in the 80s im not entirely sure.
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Ask about your serial number there. I did, and found out the year (and place of manufacture). if that doesn't work, ask around for other emails, but it'll depend on where your horn was made.
 

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What is your ultimate objective in compiling your database of Yamaha instrument serial numbers? In my case, as the owner of a YTS-61, I can think of several disadvantages, but no advantages, to having the specific serial number and description of my horn listed on a public website. I believe my 61 was built in the 1970s. I don't know the original purchase date. Would I ever learn anything more precise than that from your data analytics (if any)? I looked at your sax serial number list. There are no build dates (not even a column for build dates) and very, very few original purchase dates. Less than half the horns have a used purchase date. What would be the impact of my adding my YTS-61 to that list? How would it help you? How would it help me? Thanks.
 

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Hi LostConn,

Some valid thoughts there.

I know there are people out there that are paranoid about their serial numbers being public. Maybe the Chinese will rip off you serial and make many copies or someone else might try to over stamp a stolen instrument with yours. Who knows but in the end it is an instrument worth maybe a few thousand dollars and there are plenty of them out there to buy used if someone wants one. Generally instruments are not in the same league of say vintage Ferraris, where less honest people may wish to pass off a fake or replica as an original using someone else's chassis number. What else is a public serial number going to do to a vintage instrument? Will potential purchasers somewhere down the line actually know how old your instrument is when you try to sell it? Will the fact that it will be proven that it WASN'T John Coltrane's personal horn by knowing the serial. As far as the vintage car analogies go, there is now a growing trend of making chassis/VIN's public to leave a traceable and documents ownership line and history. Each to their own I guess.

As far as what I hope to achieve...

Yamaha has made many clear statements that their own records of build dates / production figures etc do not go earlier than about 1982 for what ever reason. Even the specs for instruments for instruments before then have been lifted from catalogs, not from build sheet records. Yes, you can contact Yamaha for models released / sold after 1982 for a build date or sale date, and they will provide an answer as to the exact model and date etc. So my aim is to progressively collect enough samples to:

1. be able to roughly date an instrument by its serial and place in the list.

2. identify unusual / unknown regional / custom models

3. begin to establish patterns for the issue of serials.

4. identify non-published inter model production changes by serial / date (ie: changes of logos, pad type, case type etc)


With regards to the allocation of serial numbers there are many arguments whether Yamaha has issued serials

1. chronologically
2. randomly

or

3. in groups depending on model/ family series / and location of manufacture.

Personally, observing my trumpet serial list, I am starting to see patterns quite clearly to suggest the 3rd pattern suggested above.

I guess the last thing to cover is build date VS purchase date. Which would be the most useful to people? What have other manufacturers supplied? Is a build date the COMMENCEMENT of building, ie: the day the body was initially press or formed?, or is the COMPLETION date the build date? and how long does it take from commencement to completion? Is the SALE date the day it was sold from factory to retail?, or from retail to 1st user? As I'm sure you know, some horns are sold by the retailer even before they take delivery of them, whilst others may sit in the back storage room of a retailer (or wholesaler) for many years or decades as they fall from favor or are replaced by newer models, only being sold years later as New Old Stock.

For ALL of the reasons above, I have left the information collected in my serial database fairly open ended so people can choose to leave as much or as little as they feel comfortable doing. The information collected on the saxophone list so far is still in its infancy with regards to numbers compared to several thousand on the trumpet list.

I hope you would share your model / serial on the list but if you choose not too that's fine too. Enjoying playing is the end game anyway.

Cheers
YamahaCollector
 
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