I want to chime in here because we have to be a bit careful, methinks. I had a USSR-made horn, mine by Moscow Music Works.....which, according to every thread I could find on Soviet saxes, was surely a piece of garbage with horrible action and intonation so bad it was shocking. This was said by some folks who actually had experienced them.I have the alto version in unplayable condition. As Milandro says, it's more of an interesting conversation piece and part of history and not worth returning to a playable state.
Fair point! I am a fan of Amati and have always liked the flourishes found on the Arta Guban horns as well. Mine is just in a deplorable state overall and would take more than a full overhaul to get into playing shape. I might drag it out again and see where it stands, perhaps I'm wrong on the amount of work it needs, but I purchased it as a curious piece of history more than anything. I could have gone for a more playable MMW horn, but the engraving is what I was really after. I'd love to try one, especially after reading about your experience, but if I were looking for a low-cost player there would be quite a few makes and models in front of these ones.I am not saying yours is NOT a dog, Cymru. Just saying that westerners have a tendency to poo-poo anything made behind the Curtain (I have refurbed a few Arta Gubans, Romania, as well...and guess what ? Same findings). So if I had listened to those folks who were strafing Soviet horns, and had I not found something odd about their comments, and if I were not a person with a soft-spot for instrument oddballs...I probably would have turned this into a garden fountain.
Yes, absolutely. As you say, a MMW or other wouldn't top the list of potential choices for a player looking for a workhorse everyday, inexpensive player...I was more stating these are not terrible and in good tack certainly undeserving of their internet rep.... but if I were looking for a low-cost player there would be quite a few makes and models in front of these ones.
Didn't mean to call YOU out particularly...you just happened to be there :bluewink:. More calling out all of these threads and other internet postings, just to remind folks one cannot truly ascertain a horn if it isn't in good playable shape.I've got a soft spot for these oddballs as well and I'm glad you are breathing life into them! I should be more be more careful with my words and am glad you called me out on it!
Looks to me like it is missing its palm F and the flash photo makes the hole look plugged (?). A replacement one, along with saddle if necessary, can be grafted on from another horn (if it happens not to be floating around in the case or down the bell)Not sure what was patched up... a tone hole or just a hole... but don't see a neck either.
Pfft... Well, when it's earned, it earned!]Didn't mean to call YOU out particularly...you just happened to be there :bluewink:. More calling out all of these threads and other internet postings, just to remind folks one cannot truly ascertain a horn if it isn't in good playable shape.
So when a person is approached with a decision 'should I put any $ into this ?' and they go on the web and everyone seems to be saying the horn is garbage, most people will not consider whether the critics have actually had an experience with one in top-shape. Nor are those comments taking into consideration what the owner, personally, wants to get out of owning the horn.