[PorkpieHat]

Considering using CBD for finger joint pain. Not sure if i should get something investable or a salve that I rub on my joints. Also this just alleviates pain, doesn't help heal anything correct? Any advice welcomed.

 

[milandro]

I have tried it to fight neural pain, two different types.

I suppose you ment ingestible. I tried drops, went to an increasing dosage regime (with both types ). Very disappointing.

I am afraid that I had no results at all. Same thing with acupuncture by the way ( dry needling for sciatica worked better albeit only temporarily, baffling the same therapist)


I didn’t try to rub it but, for me, I don’t put too much trust in any of this. Before the crisis I was considering microdosing with psychoactive mushrooms. I don’t know how legislation at your end is, I am still considering this, some time after the crisis I will re examine the mattter

 

[Mister Lyrical]

My wife has these finger joint pains coming from age and she takes CBD drops (not playing saxophone). She says that it actually helps or alleviates the issue to a good degree but not totally. Once she stopped the treatment, pain came back to where it was before.
She takes just 3 drops in the evening and in the morning.
Probably you know that with drops you have to keep them in your mouth for a minute or two to absorb them via the mucous membrane and not via the stomach (for better absorption).
I take these when I feel I need a little push for my immune system...

 

[milandro]

there is absolutely no proof of anything like this affecting the immune system, if commercially any claims would be made to this effect this would be ground to take this ( or any other product) from the market. It has happened many times, for example with claims by fermented milk products.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/how-to-boost-your-immune-system

 

[rweisheit]

From my own personal experience, the most effective use of CBD and/or THC for pain is to vaporize the flower (the plant). Oils and concentrates have additives with unknown health consequences, whereas vaporizing the flower is giving you pure vapor. Generally I use a grinder and mix a bud or two of high CBD flower with a bud or two of THC flower and use the mixture with a dry herb vaporizer, in my case a Mighty by Storz and Bickel (https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/catalog/product/view/id/139). There is a synergy that occurs (one that is backed by science and has to do with the CB1 and CB2 receptors, among other things) when consuming both CBD and THC, and the effect is incredible. The CBD tempers the psychoactive component of THC and the THC allows the therapeutic effect of CBD to really shine. I've used CBD tinctures, salves, edibles, you name it, and nothing has come even close to my method described above. As you can probably tell, I am a huge believer in the medical/therapeutic benefits of these compounds. I hope you find something that works for you!

 

[pumseig]

I've tried the CBD topical cream for arthritis in the hands. It did absolutely nothing for me.

 

[jazzbluescat]

From my own personal experience, the most effective use of CBD and/or THC for pain is to vaporize the flower (the plant). Oils and concentrates have additives with unknown health consequences, whereas vaporizing the flower is giving you pure vapor. Generally I use a grinder and mix a bud or two of high CBD flower with a bud or two of THC flower and use the mixture with a dry herb vaporizer, in my case a Mighty by Storz and Bickel (https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/catalog/product/view/id/139). There is a synergy that occurs (one that is backed by science and has to do with the CB1 and CB2 receptors, among other things) when consuming both CBD and THC, and the effect is incredible. The CBD tempers the psychoactive component of THC and the THC allows the therapeutic effect of CBD to really shine. I've used CBD tinctures, salves, edibles, you name it, and nothing has come even close to my method described above. As you can probably tell, I am a huge believer in the medical/therapeutic benefits of these compounds. I hope you find something that works for you!

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And, needless to say, it's great for those passing minor aches and pains due to aging.

 

[sandster]

I've tried the CBD topical cream for arthritis in the hands. It did absolutely nothing for me.

And I use a CBD topical cream for my shoulder arthritis and it does reduce the pain.

 

[PorkpieHat]

Thanks for the replies. Gonna try a CBD tincture as well as more stretching and massaging of joints.

 

[swperry1]

From my own personal experience, the most effective use of CBD and/or THC for pain is to vaporize the flower (the plant). Oils and concentrates have additives with unknown health consequences, whereas vaporizing the flower is giving you pure vapor. Generally I use a grinder and mix a bud or two of high CBD flower with a bud or two of THC flower and use the mixture with a dry herb vaporizer, in my case a Mighty by Storz and Bickel (https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/catalog/product/view/id/139). There is a synergy that occurs (one that is backed by science and has to do with the CB1 and CB2 receptors, among other things) when consuming both CBD and THC, and the effect is incredible. The CBD tempers the psychoactive component of THC and the THC allows the therapeutic effect of CBD to really shine. I've used CBD tinctures, salves, edibles, you name it, and nothing has come even close to my method described above. As you can probably tell, I am a huge believer in the medical/therapeutic benefits of these compounds. I hope you find something that works for you!

Guess what? Just as easy to get crap flower as it is to get crap extracts. Know your supplier and try as many delivery routes as you can because we're all different.
Tincture, edibles, and topicals are most recommended for arthritis. Some people with deeper joint pain don't find a lot of relief with topicals because the my only penetrate so much...not an issue with fingers/ hands obviously. Anything reputable has labs on the packaging.

 

[motteatoj]

+1

Guess what? Just as easy to get crap flower as it is to get crap extracts. Know your supplier and try as many delivery routes as you can because we're all different.
Tincture, edibles, and topicals are most recommended for arthritis. Some people with deeper joint pain don't find a lot of relief with topicals because the my only penetrate so much...not an issue with fingers/ hands obviously. Anything reputable has labs on the packaging.

 

[rezahodgen02]

From my own personal experience, the most effective use of CBD and/or THC for pain is to vaporize the flower (the plant). Oils and concentrates have additives with unknown health consequences, whereas vaporizing the flower is giving you pure vapor. Generally I use a grinder and mix a bud or two of high CBD flower with a bud or two of THC flower and use the mixture with a dry herb vaporizer, in my case a Mighty by Storz and Bickel ( Home ). There is a synergy that occurs (one that is backed by science and has to do with the CB1 and CB2 receptors, among other things) when consuming both CBD and THC, and the effect is incredible. The CBD tempers the psychoactive component of THC and the THC allows the therapeutic effect of CBD to really shine. I've used CBD tinctures, salves, edibles, you name it, and nothing has come even close to my method described above. As you can probably tell, I am a huge believer in the medical/therapeutic benefits of these compounds. I hope you find something that works for you!

You may have meant that Cannabidiol interacts with the body through a complex network of cannabinoid receptors known as the endocannabinoid system (ECS). This vast internal system regulates vital daily functions, including appetite, mood, and sleep patterns. When these receptors are activated, the body produces chemicals known as endocannabinoids. If you use, you will feel the difference.

 

[milandro]

I have found absolutely NO pain relief with CBD and increasingly so, despite this have becoming a huge industry with many followers, science questions if and what works behind the CBD

Exploring the pharmacological and placebo effects of CBD for pain

A new study has shed light on the pain-reducing effects of CBD, as well as the impact that the placebo effect may have on pain outcomes.

www.healtheuropa.com

 

[pontius]

I notice several years ago when CBD blew up on the market and became the new thing. Outrageous prices and claims are pretty easy to see through IMO. Snake oil as far as I am concerned as far as the topicals.go.

 

[Berg-Man]

I've used them but find an Alleve works better for me. The drops helped sleep me though.

 

[milandro]

Hardly strange that a non steroid pain killer ,registered to do what it says that is does, does relieve pain, don’t you think?

But the problem is precisely this. All of sudden people start saying that CBD oil works and a whole industry starts rising and the price is gigantic, this industry is worth in excess of a billion $ and it is unregulated because this is not sold as a medicament but as food supplement.

Is by no means the only one ( the shops and on line things are full of products of this sort).

Next you know the Klangbogen will also relieve pain...

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

I have thus far not found any CBD to relieve the RA in my hands, its simply not strong enough. I'm going to be honest here and say that I get more relief from THC and certain Terps, and its more fun . For my RA I have to take a nerve blocker and over the counter Aleve.
However, the best pain relief for me is to play my horns. I feel my pain is reduced 50% just moving my fingers. I guess I'm tricking the brain to put the pain aside.

 

[Dr G]

I have thus far not found any CBD to relieve the RA in my hands, its simply not strong enough. I'm going to be honest here and say that I get more relief from THC and certain Terps, and its more fun . For my RA I have to take a nerve blocker and over the counter Aleve.
However, the best pain relief for me is to play my horns. I feel my pain is reduced 50% just moving my fingers. I guess I'm tricking the brain to put the pain aside.

Thanks for the update, Brian. The osteoarthritis in the base of my left thumb persists with no apparent relief. Sometimes I think I can just play through it for a few hours, but then it hurts the rest of the day. Being actively engaged in something else helps distract me from the pain afterward. Being active enough that something else hurts is yet another effective strategy.

 

[milandro]

I certainly can sympathize since I too have base thumb arthritis .... along with a number of other painful ailments.

I am on serious pain medication and was trying to get off that by these things but they were really disappointing

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

I have tried it to fight neural pain, two different types.

I suppose you ment ingestible. I tried drops, went to an increasing dosage regime (with both types ). Very disappointing.

I am afraid that I had no results at all. Same thing with acupuncture by the way ( dry needling for sciatica worked better albeit only temporarily, baffling the same therapist)


I didn’t try to rub it but, for me, I don’t put too much trust in any of this. Before the crisis I was considering microdosing with psychoactive mushrooms. I don’t know how legislation at your end is, I am still considering this, some time after the crisis I will re examine the mattter

Thanks for the update, Brian. The osteoarthritis in the base of my left thumb persists with no apparent relief. Sometimes I think I can just play through it for a few hours, but then it hurts the rest of the day. Being actively engaged in something else helps distract me from the pain afterward. Being active enough that something else hurts is yet another effective strategy.

Be assured that I also pay for my sax playing afterwards. That’s when the THC helps 🔥.