[BrianMitchellBrody]

I don't think he was being ironic. There are many great fans of Coltrane (myself included) who wouldn't exactly consider his soprano tone as one to emulate.

If playing extremely sharp is your thing 😉

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

Did the OP find a soprano?

 

[SuiZen]

Did the OP find a soprano?

Post #35 _ Weltklang

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

Post #35 _ Weltklang

Ok

 

[JazzWithoutANet]

Did the OP find a soprano?

Why? What’ve you got?

 

[JayeLID]

Just picked up a Weltklang from Ebay. Baby steps...I'll save(or flip) for the Yamaha YSS-475, seeing that they come so highly recommended. In the mean time, I'll futz around with this one.

That was a GOOD take, listing said it is recently serviced and in play-shape. I usually sell these sorta stencils for $750+. Enjoy.

Yamaha, yeah well....maybe....this one sounds much better than a Yama, for those who prefer a smooth, dark and round tone vs. bright.

 

[ROC]

Inoffensive soprano...

....er....


Nope.

Maybe a tenor that identifies as a soprano?

Don’t besmirch my first love!

😏

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

Why? What’ve you got?

I have nothing for sale right now if that’s what your asking. I was just curious what was chosen after all that discussion. As far as Welklang sopranos are concerned I have owned three and one that I had overhauled and thought the tone was decent, the ergonomics were well, a challenge compared with a more contemporary sax. Good luck

 

[Fader]

Don’t besmirch my first love!

😏

Sorry - I just hate 'em....
So much in fact that I left mine on the back seat of my car with doors unlocked - When I got back there were two soprano's there!

 

[JayeLID]

Why? What’ve you got?

Nowwwww..... stop that !

You just purchased a horn which very likely fits your parameters, and is said to be in play-shape.
Ostensibly, mission accomplished.
Wait til you receive it and play it a bit, get a feel for it...before you go shopping for another horn.

Again, your pricepoint zone is a tough one...it's either gonna be one of these German stencils, or a similar Italian stencil of the same period (a bit different but IMHO no 'better' nor 'worse'), or something modern of at least decent quality like a Kessler or Chateau.

So within the likely available options worthy of consideration, you picked one of those options...which again, was pretty wise as opposed to rolling the dice on something else or insisting/expecting you could

a) land a $1200 market value one for $700.
or
b) believe that a company which makes $400 actually would make a $650-750 one which is really significantly better.

 

[JazzWithoutANet]

Nowwwww..... stop that !

You just purchased a horn which very likely fits your parameters, and is said to be in play-shape.
Ostensibly, mission accomplished.
Wait til you receive it and play it a bit, get a feel for it...before you go shopping for another horn.

Again, your pricepoint zone is a tough one...it's either gonna be one of these German stencils, or a similar Italian stencil of the same period (a bit different but IMHO no 'better' nor 'worse'), or something modern of at least decent quality like a Kessler or Chateau.

So within the likely available options worthy of consideration, you picked one of those options...which again, was pretty wise as opposed to rolling the dice on something else or insisting/expecting you could

a) land a $1200 market value one for $700.
or
b) believe that a company which makes $400 actually would make a $650-750 one which is really significantly better.

Old habits... I'm just always curious.

I really had no intention of purchasing something else. I think I did okay. The Seller was very flexible with the best offer price. It should arrive tomorrow.

 

[slisbin]

I know I'm late to this thread but a few mentioned Kessler sops and I had one so figured I'd chime in.

Bought a straight single soprano from them about 6 years ago. First sop I'd ever owned. Played well enough and the ergos seemed fine for me. Problem was that I needed an adjustment and my test said it was junk and wouldn't work on it. I sold it shortly after and have never bought another soprano.

 

[Saxophone Strange]

YSS-475 all the way. Picked up a silver plated one a while back; great horn.

 

[sax country]

Thanks for pointing that out. I read through too fast and missed that the OP wants something for less than $1k. It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure my MKVI soprano had a strap ring. And it had no idiosyncrasies (aside from being a soprano) that I recall. It's been a lot of years, though.

"Aside from being a soprano" - That one got me chuckling. I needed it - thanks!

 

[goldenskyhook]

I'm not yet ready to drop $1000 on a soprano so what's in my wheel house at about $700 that will have some resale value? I figure I can get at least $200 for my Chinese one and with the discussions lately, I'm intrigued at the possibility of owning a better one and experiencing better sound so I'm attempting to find a decent entry level horn. What names, besides Jupiter, am I looking for?

You don't say WHICH Chinese soprano you currently own. At the price point you are looking, I recommend the Taishan Winds brand off EBay. Yes, it's another Chinese sax, but this guy has really worked hard to make improvements based on feedback from his American customers. TBH, I haven't played their soprano, but I absolutely ADORE the bari I bought from them. Intonation, tone, etc. are all solid. Yes, it feels a bit "lighter" than the expensive European and American horns, but it sounds great and is easy to play. Professional TaiShan Gold Straight Soprano Saxophone New BB Sax High F With Case | eBay. They have some nice curved ones as well.

 

[JazzWithoutANet]

You don't say WHICH Chinese soprano you currently own. At the price point you are looking, I recommend the Taishan Winds brand off EBay. Yes, it's another Chinese sax, but this guy has really worked hard to make improvements based on feedback from his American customers. TBH, I haven't played their soprano, but I absolutely ADORE the bari I bought from them. Intonation, tone, etc. are all solid. Yes, it feels a bit "lighter" than the expensive European and American horns, but it sounds great and is easy to play. Professional TaiShan Gold Straight Soprano Saxophone New BB Sax High F With Case | eBay. They have some nice curved ones as well.

Thank you for the recommendation!
My Chinese soprano is the Ammoon. It’s the one Jay from Bettersax.com reviewed. I’m still very pleased with it, I just bought an early sixties Weltklang because I wanted to see(and hear) the difference from a horn not built in Asia. When I return from my travel, I’ll be playing my European soprano for the first time. Thanks again for the recommendation!

 

[twocircles]

Inoffensive to whom?

I was pleasantly surprised when I got my Keilwerth stencil a few years ago. The cats and dogs who, with my previous soprano, would run to the farthest corner of the house and cower. With my "new to me" sax, they would actually stay in the room with me. The cats eventually wander off, because they don’t like loud things, but no more running for their lives. My daughter’s dog will still “sing" with me when she visits, but no more howling and whining with her tail tucked between her legs as she slinks away.

I am still not sure what to make of it, but I also prefer the sound.

 

[JazzWithoutANet]

Well the Weltklang soprano is just okay. I happen to like the sound of my Ammoon more. I'll continue to practice with my new acquisition and save for the Yamaha YSS-475 everybody's recommending in the meantime.

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well, this is the older design of the weltklang with the in line leaf palm keys, I could have directed you to a similarly priced and more modern one with the same mechanics of the B&S in Belgium but that’s now hindsight , have fun

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I see what you mean by the mechanics of my older Weltklang. It's been an adjustment to say the least. It's early, but I know me. I'm gonna sell it eventually. It's no improvement from my Ammoon.

 

[BrianMitchellBrody]

Ammoon is a throw away horn. Welklang horns are antiquated. Yamaha 475 is in a much higher category than the previous.

 

[click]

Bedazzled is almost criminally uncelebrated for its brilliance. (Plus Cook’s appearance as Drimble Wedge and the Vegetation is so prescient of at least the visual representation of Ziggy Stardust 5 years before the fact is outright shocking.) But the main thing here is that every time Cook as the Devil grants one of Dudley’s wishes he of course invokes “Julie Andrews”. Reacting to the saccharine sweet image she imbued after the massive success of the Sound of Music. It was perfect 1960’s zeitgeist.

(And, of course. Peter plays some pretty passable tenor to accompany Raquel Welch’s bar dancing during the final party sequence.)

Wedge's lyric "you fill me with inertia" is a new favorite. Thanks!