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I was curious if anyone has experience buying Yamaha or Yanagisawa saxophones in Japan?

I may have a trip to Japan in a couple of months, and was curious if it was possible to get better deals in Japan or if there were models that were only available there.
 

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Good question. I also wonder about buying used saxophones there. Probably a lot cheaper as long as you don't have to pay duties on returning home. (Depending on where you live)
 

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well, if you come back with a saxophone from abroad you may be questioned about where this comes from and then you may have to pay something.

This may or may not happen . Lying about it will make you liable to way more a problem than simply paying VAT or possible DUTY (depending where you live). I can guarantee that if you come back with a direct flight from Japan to Europe you will be questioned.



Anyway there are MANY previous threads on this.This is not a rebuff but an important point to consider especially for new members or members whom, like OP post very little in their multi years membership.

If you were to use the Google Custom Search in the top center of this page (only this page, not the one on the right top of any other page)

https://www.saxontheweb.net

By typing “ Buy Saxophone in Japan” you will get 1030 hits.


THESE here are some of them for you to read.


https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?278170-Anyone-ever-bought-a-sax-in-Japan


https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?181207-Buying-Saxophone-in-Japan

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?232493-Buying-a-Japanese-made-sax-in-Japan-Cheaper

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?260705-Buying-from-the-factory-in-Japan

Opening new threads on old matters only ever dilutes information.

Continuing an older one has the bonus advantage of causing an alert to be delivered to all the people who have subscribed to a previous thread and it will still show up in the new active threads of the day.
 

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there used to be a time when many japanese threw away their secondhand stuff because it didn't work or was out of fashion and one could find saxes/guitars/cameras/etc/etc on junk piles.
these days thats hard to find and its just as lucky to find one in your own country cheap than it is in japan.
if going to japan anyway,just have a look around and see what you come up with.
good luck.
 

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well, if you come back with a saxophone from abroad you may be questioned about where this comes from and then you may have to pay something.

This may or may not happen . Lying about it will make you liable to way more a problem than simply paying VAT or possible DUTY (depending where you live). I can guarantee that if you come back with a direct flight from Japan to Europe you will be questioned.


Anyway there are MANY previous threads on this.This is not a rebuff but an important point to consider especially for new members or members whom, like OP post very little in their multi years membership.
I wouldn't worry too much about being questioned as to where the instrument comes from if you are American. I have been travelling regularly with musical instruments for 19 years, and nobody has ever asked about where I bought it. I recently bought a couple of Yamaha instruments abroad and had a great experience. In certain countries Yamaha products are sold for much less than in the USA. Some of the Yamaha pianos are close to half the price!
 

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Well in Europe things are very different and we don’t know where OP comes from.

of course importing a piano by plane is a very special predicament :)
 

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Well the piano was just an example of the variation in pricing. But for expat careers people use shipping containers, and an upright piano is no big deal. I am really tempted to buy a new Yamaha CSG clarinet, which is about $700 dollars cheaper in France than in the USA. You can also get the VAT refund at the airport upon leaving. It would make it almost worth someone flying to France from the USA to buy a Yamaha CSG. A new Reference 54 tenor is $7,500 in France and over $9,000 in the USA right now. Wow.
 

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You can buy directly without any taxes if you leave abroad. Matthews, in the NL is one such shops which will charge no VAT when shipping abroad.

A New reference , with no taxes, in $ costs

$6,655.45 so about $900 less than your price.


https://www.matthewsmuziek.nl/en/selmer-tenor-sax-reference-54-in-antique.html

clarinets

https://www.matthewsmuziek.nl/en/clarinet/bb-clarinet.html?brands=yamaha

same thing for a Yamaha saxophones really

https://www.matthewsmuziek.nl/en/saxophone/tenor-saxophone.html?brands=yamaha
 

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Wow, thanks for posting that. Great prices there. The prices I was quoting in France were including VAT, and then there is a hassle at the airport to get the VAT refunded. Of course the problem with shipping abroad is you do end up paying taxes and customs when you receive it. Much better just to fly somewhere and come back with a little extra luggage.
 

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No, private American citizens don’t seem to ever pay taxes when receiving horns from Europe.

Shops do, private people hardly ever do.

There are lots of threads on this.

We don't have import duties in the U.S. ... sometimes depending on the shipping method you may have to pay a customs clearance fee, but if they ship postal then you'll be fine.

I've bought many many mouthpieces and horns from overseas:)
While I have not bought anything directly from Japan, I have bought several instruments from Europe. Never paid a fee upon delivery. I bought a clarinet in person in London once (many years ago) and paid a fee when I declared it at US Customs, but never when shipped to me. DAVE
I've never been charged with import duty from Japan, Europe, or anywhere for that matter when living in the U.S.
 

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No, private American citizens don’t seem to ever pay taxes when receiving horns from Europe.

Shops do, private people hardly ever do.

There are lots of threads on this.
Funny, the one time I had a horn shipped from overseas it was sent USPS, and I had to pay customs duties and was pretty bummed about it. Maybe they are inconsistent about it, and I didn't get lucky.
 

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it’s hit an miss but mots are misses .

In Europe there is a certain automatism about this.

In years of shipping to the US I’be only had it once and it was because it was a company address ( or so I’ve always thought).
 

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On this note, can anyone guide as to how one can buy a Taishan sax from mainland china? I am looking for a reliable place in Nanjing from which I can pick one up.
 

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it is actually very much more complex to buy saxophones in China that one might think, especially of a given brand.

I have been twice and once I bought a saxophone there in Shanghai. I went to the street where they told me all the music shops were but only a few had saxophones and there were only few local ones. I bought a Mercury soprano.

The shop had also another Taiwanese made (can’t remember the brand but in China they themselves prefer “ import” Taiwanese ) and a Yanagisawa . With hindsight the Mercury didn’t really cost much less than I would have paid if I would have bought it across the oceans.

I am sure that your Taishan will not be easy to be found in just any shop there and you probably better enquire here before you leave for China Lonkou is a major center for the production of many brands (also Mercury)

(warning any Chinese webpage takes a long time to load! Their internet is a sort of Intranet with a state bottleneck to the internet)

http://en.taishan-guanyue.com/products_detail/productId=44.html


http://en.taishan-guanyue.com

Contact us:
Address: Taishan Industrial Park, Dongcheng District, Longkou City,Shandong Province,China.
Postal Code: 265701
Tel:86-0535-8525696
Fax:86-0535-8535966
E-mail:[email protected]
 

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Great info milandro! I actually mailed that id a while back but no one ever replied. I suspected that in shop buying from china would be tricky to say the least. Another option is US. I have family and friends frequently travelling and have a lot settled in the States. Thing is how much extra cost it would be if I get a Taishan from US? I can get it in country without tax if someone is carrying it- counts as personal instrument. Is there any place on this august forum to get some info on available models and sellers etc? I have done my browsing here and located some ebay sellers but I am a but apprehensive as to ordering .

Frankly speaking, as a long time guitar player, I was knocked out cold by the going price of even student saxophones from 'standard' manufacturers. Entry bar is just too high! But since Gene Ammons happened to me , a metal-head for life, I just can't get the idea of learning a tenor from my mind!
 
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