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Hello,
I just purchased a Bundy Selmer Alto Sax and need help identifying exactly what it is.
On the bell it says
BUNDY
Selmer
USA
....on the "back" of it is what I am assuming is the serial number....681648.
Your help is greatly appreciated!


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Bundy is a "student" horn produced by Selmer. I'm curious...why would you buy something and then ask what it is?

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?4293-Bundy-Saxophone
ANSWER: Because they got a great deal on a quick sale.

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Welcome to SOTW, Bigfun! This is (without exaggeration) the greatest concentration of saxophone knowledge on the planet. Use what you learn here wisely. With great power and knowledge comes great responsibility.

Your Bundy has an interesting linage much discussed here on the SOTW. The serial number is not from Selmer, but is a continuation of serial numbers from Buescher. From the early 1900's through the 1950's, Buescher was large maker of musical instrument and they made what I believe were the finest saxophones ever produced in the US. And they made many of the lower-end saxophone models sold under the Selmer USA name. Selmer USA usually labeled these HA Bundy after one of the heads guys at their company. In about 1961, the Buescher company fell on hard times and was bought out by Selmer USA. At that point, Selmer USA began making practically all their saxophones (mostly student and step up) at the old Buescher factory using the same Buescher equipment.

Your Selmer Bundy is from around 1978. If it has the left-hand bell keys, it is a student model Bundy "Model I". These were made using the pro-model Buescher Aristocrat design but with some simplifications used to reduce costs and help with mass production. To help confuse the issue, after the buyout, Selmer USA also offered a step-up version of your sax under the Buescher Aristocrat name. But it is virtually the exact same as your Bundy.

These can be very good and very durable saxophones. They are often bright but have some of the original pro-model Buescher tone from the 1940's and 50's. The keywork is simple but very durable. Some have intonation issues, but others play very well in tune. As with most student models, quality varies from horn to horn. There are good ones and bad ones. Some are very good and have even been used as main instruments by pros and even some jazz greats. I still see these used by street performers quit often. In good condition, it's worth about $250. Many can be bought on eBay in the $100 to $150 range but usually need adjustments.

Congratulations on your purchase. These can a be pretty good for a low-cost sax.
 

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ANSWER: Because they got a great deal on a quick sale.
In good condition, it's worth about $250. Many can be bought on eBay in the $100 to $150 range but usually need adjustments.

Congratulations on your purchase. These can a be pretty for a cheap sax.

But Buescher fell on hard times and was bought by Selmer USA in about 1961.
If he had been around for a while, I would have assumed that.
 

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Thanks Enviroguy!
You hit the nail on the head! Got a great deal locally, just $40! I appreciate all the info, that's exactly what I was looking for. I believe the only thing it needs is a good cleaning and new pads.
Thanks again!
 

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Thanks Enviroguy!
You hit the nail on the head! Got a great deal locally, just $40! I appreciate all the info, that's exactly what I was looking for. I believe the only thing it needs is a good cleaning and new pads.
Thanks again!
Therein lies the rub with a $40 horn. Needs new pads. You may find that it needs $400 worth of new pads. Hopefully not, but that's the risk in a $40 horn.
 

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Thanks Enviroguy!
You hit the nail on the head! Got a great deal locally, just $40! I appreciate all the info, that's exactly what I was looking for. I believe the only thing it needs is a good cleaning and new pads.
Thanks again!
Hopefully you aren't out too much on the repair bill. Something tells me that's why the previous person sold it...it wasn't worth repairing (well...not worth paying someone else to repair). Just my $.02...but for a $40 horn...I'd be tempted to order http://www.amazon.com/Saxophone-Man...6383/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320112350&sr=8-1 and give it a shot myself. If you botch it...dump some topsoil in and you've got a nice plant pot. :)
 

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well, our new friend will discover pretty soon that repairs are not cheap these days. On the other hand there are plenty of repairers whom do their best to do only the necessary work to make the horn play and he could be ending up spending only a couple of hundreds..........which could have bought him a playing Bundy anyway. If it needs a complete overhaul I am afraid that that is a deal killer and these horns are only worth buying if you are a technician or able to repair the horn yourself.

In the olden days work was cheap and one could get anything , even cheap horns, playing within a reasonable amount of money.

I am afraid that this is no longer the case in most of the rich countries of the 1st world (sometime ago there was a member from some asian country who stated that he could get an overhaul made by a tech who made his own pads, which would otherwise cost at least 70$ on their own, at the cost of 100$.......).

It is not a question of seeing the glass half full but, although occasionally one can find a sleeper, most people who sell a saxophone very cheap have been to a technician before and were told exactly how much it would be needed to fix their horn and how much it is worth it.

Anyway I am curious to know what the results would be of your trip to the next technician and if you get your horn playing (not overhauled, just playing) for less than 200$.
 
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