[jovijr]

I've played Buffet Cranpom both alto and tenor Super Dynaction models. However, this bari one I'm not sure if it is the Super Dynaction one because there's no model engraving in the back of the body and the expected logo BC between bell to body is also different. Serial number is 137xx, which seems to be a 1967 model.
I'd be grateful to hear your opinions about it. Thank you.
Joviniano

 

[milandro]

Buffet certainly bought some horns and they certainly di that for the Evette Baritones , it is possible that this may be one made by Santoni,

I also find very strange when they don't write made in France but just France

https://thesax.info/makesandmodelsl...ffer-buffet-mysterious-production-saxophones/

 

[jovijr]

Thank you for the information, Milandro. Very impressive site. I also think that it might be a stencil because of the missing BC logo brace.

 

[milandro]

Nice Horn anyway, enjoy!

 

[Kritavi]

Compare yours to mine which has the traditional Buffet engraving but a different brace. Mine is certainly a French made horn but does not seem to follow the model design and features of the altos and tenors.
A very heavy saxophone, almost a pound more than a Mark VI.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oEA5nyq7Dat4NqkQ8

 

[jovijr]

Nice pictures, Kritavi. These ones I screen captured from a vídeo, since the sax isn't here. Please check its table. Quite a difference from yours.

 

[Kritavi]

I agree with Milandro that yours is a branded Buffet but not a product of its Paris factory.

 

[rhysonsax]

I don't think we can be sure, based on the pictures provided so far. The SDA had design changes through the model run and differences between the baritone and the smaller horns. The engraving also varied.

The LH table I see on the still from a video of the horn in question looks more like that on the SDA than the one posted by Kritavi.

I have a low A Buffet Crampon baritone that has no model name engraved on it and it appears to share features from the SDA, although it's from the S-1 period.

Have a look at Steve Howard's review of a Buffet Crampon baritone here. http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk/Reviews/Saxes/Bari/Buffet_S1_bari.htm

And also have a look at the photographs of BC baritones on the Saxpics site: http://www.saxpics.com/?v=gal&a=1302

Rhys

 

[Graysax]

I owned a SDA bari for over 25 years. I have long gotten rid of it but just dug out some of the pictures. I'll include them in this post. The bell to body brace was a weak spot on these bari's, and it isn't uncommon to see them replaced. On mine as I'm a tech, after i replaced it, I took the original brae with the Buffet logo, cut it in half, and made the new brace look like it was made to be as original as possible.

If you are on facebook - there are many more pics of it if you dig on my page here https://www.facebook.com/The-Saxophone-Whisperer-122896667759615/

 

[jovijr]

Thank you for the pictures, Graysax. The brace you've created is even better than the original one. Talking about the original post, when I first saw that baritone I looked for the BC logo and the Super Dynaction engraving. Since I didnt' find them I assumed that something wasn't correct. I've seen other Buffet Crampon stencils, specially those intermediate level Evette Schaeffer saxophones from the 60's or 70's, most of them italian or french made.

 

[Graysax]

The Evette Schaefer Baritones made at that time had NO resemblance to the SDA Baritone. AFAIK, Buffets were Buffets and Evettes were made by other people.

 

[Graysax]

Also keep in mind as with my SDA baritone, I have never seen the words "Super Dynaction" engraved on it like the altos and tenors had.

 

[tomonsax]

Also keep in mind as with my SDA baritone, I have never seen the words "Super Dynaction" engraved on it like the altos and tenors had.

yes, can confirm this for my Bari- a 13 0xx low a