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How about a little Boney James playing some bebop alongside Sonny Stitt!

Very fun to hear this. Really a breath of fresh air to hear him in such a totally different setting than I normally hear him in. I thought this was wonderful.
And for my own advertising, it鈥檚 great to hear Boney displaying the warmer side of his 10MFAN Chameleon mouthpiece. He can make it as warm, or bright and punchy, as he wants. A lot of players are under the impression that it鈥檚 just a super powerful piece, but it鈥檚 got such incredible depth when it comes to flexibility and versatility.

Enjoy!

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awesome ! boney proving he can play along with the great sonny stitt. not bad for a smooth jazz guy:LOL:
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All the smooth jazz guys can play!!!
No doubt about that. Boney, Gerald, Kenny, Koz, Marienthal, etc鈥
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This video is like when people post videos of 鈥渓ook Kenny G can PLAY鈥 and I鈥檓 always left wondering like鈥 can they really enjoy playing such musically dumbed-down stuff for money? Maybe they do.
This video is like when people post videos of 鈥渓ook Kenny G can PLAY鈥 and I鈥檓 always left wondering like鈥 can they really enjoy playing such musically dumbed-down stuff for money? Maybe they do.
Here's an analogy that I think helps with this question.

Imagine you trained to be a video game programmer. You started as a kid, worked hard all the way through college, and you're really good. But then you go out in the world and discover there are not that many jobs being a video game programmer and there is really serious competition for the few jobs that exist. You realize you have three real options:
  1. Just make games on your own and live in your mom's basement forever hoping you get discovered some day.
  2. Get a totally unrelated job at starbucks and hope you have free time to work on your games.
  3. Get a really good job that pays really well as a programmer, but doing some other kind of programming.
Is it really that hard to imagine taking option 3? You still get to work on computers and use the skills you worked hard to learn while getting paid. It's not perfect but it's also a long way from terrible.
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This video is like when people post videos of 鈥渓ook Kenny G can PLAY鈥 and I鈥檓 always left wondering like鈥 can they really enjoy playing such musically dumbed-down stuff for money? Maybe they do.
It's almost like having a day gig. I wonder what he does for fun?

It reminds me of the decision that I made a few decades ago to stop playing in Top 40 bands. I feel sorry for Joe Walsh having to play "Rocky Mountain Way" all his life.

"May you get what you want, and want what you get" - Anonymous.
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I don't doubt he's really playing but the audio/video sync is off.
Like the rest of us, he's learning from the masters. Of course he can play and sounds like he's still working on getting better. I was able to meet him last summer and he was very gracious and kind. Now his smooth jazz personal and style isn't something I'm particularly into but I respect anyone that can make a living playing saxophone. He certainly knows how to work a crowd!

By the way, I've never seen him without a hat. That's some crazy hair! So jealous.
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I love hearing this straight ahead stuff from him.
I also love that he loves Stitt. 馃幏馃幏鉂も潳
Playing good smooth jazz is an art form. Isn鈥檛 it possible that he love鈥檚 playing his brand of smooth jazz. Why do people assume he just plays it for money?
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Playing good smooth jazz is an art form. Isn鈥檛 it possible that he love鈥檚 playing his brand of smooth jazz. Why do people assume he just plays it for money?

Welcome to SOTW鈥.. 馃槃
He loves playing what he plays. He writes a ton of the songs that he performs and records. This isn鈥檛 for the money. He REALLY loves what he does.
What I love here, is that he wanted to put up a video showing another love he has, and that鈥檚 for Sonny Stitt and bebop. It鈥檚 a real breath of fresh air to see this video, as he has nothing to prove to anyone. He鈥檚 just showing that he's like all of us, and enjoys playing along with records, learning, and having fun!
I love that!
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Now that we know he can play transcribed Stitt solos (big ****ing deal) let鈥檚 hear what he sounds like playing a solo in this style of his own! Sorry, but I鈥檓 really not impressed, didn鈥檛 Prez say something about a 鈥渞epeater pencil鈥?

Well, this is the epitome of what I see around here a lot, UNFORTUNATELY.
(No "big ****ing deal" to use your own lousy choice of wording).

Boney didn't put this out to impress anyone. He was just digging on some Stitt and wanted to share that.
I love that he did this.
Everyone is so used to seeing him in a smooth jazz setting, so I thought it was a real nice surprise and a breath of fresh air to see something so different from him. It wasn't meant to impress anyone...... Boney's not like that. I know a lot of his smooth jazz fans and straight ahead players, will be surprised to see him in this setting, and will enjoy it.

Sorry you weren't one of them. Cant please everybody......
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Now that we know he can play transcribed Stitt solos (big ****ing deal) let鈥檚 hear what he sounds like playing a solo in this style of his own! Sorry, but I鈥檓 really not impressed, didn鈥檛 Prez say something about a 鈥渞epeater pencil鈥?
Well, this is the epitome of what I see around here a lot, UNFORTUNATELY.
(No "big ****ing deal" to use your own lousy choice of wording).

Boney didn't put this out to impress anyone. He was just digging on some Stitt and wanted to share that.
I love that he did this.
Everyone is so used to seeing him in a smooth jazz setting, so I thought it was a real nice surprise and a breath of fresh air to see something so different from him. It wasn't meant to impress anyone...... Boney's not like that. I know a lot of his smooth jazz fans and straight ahead players, will be surprised to see him in this setting, and will enjoy it.

Sorry you weren't one of them. Cant please everybody......
I can see both sides of this. If I had memorized a Stitt tune and could play it back that well, I'd be pleased with myself, but we all know it's not an end in itself, it's a step towards being able to play an original solo on those changes. Everyone's on a journey at their own pace.
I know a lot of players who spit blood at the mention of 'smooth' - and some of it does make me feel kind of queasy - but it's rare to see someone do something really effectively whilst hating what they do. Cynicism comes over in people's playing as clearly as any other truth.
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Have you not been paying attention to social media lately? A lot of people at many different skill levels post videos of themselves playing along with solos or tunes they鈥檝e been transcribing.
...let鈥檚 hear what he sounds like playing a solo in this style of his own!
You doubt Boney James could play a bop-style solo of his own? I don't at all...
While he may not crush like the one of the baddest men ever to pick up a sax, I think he would acquit himself just fine.

Hint: one of the BEST ways to improve your playing is to transcribe solos from the masters. There are more similarities than differences among musical styles, & like was mentioned above, most of these guys can really play, & as a matter of fact, most cut their teeth on be-bop, as it's such a great way to learn jazz/music...most really good players spent years shedding bop on some level...many do it their whole lives as continuous improvement...to wit, go to 1:30:

Is Boney James looking for our feedback? Or is he trying to expand his market into bop? Showing off his reading skills?

I acknowledge that I am a literal person and likely missing some greater nuance here. Seriously. What is the point of doing something like this?
Sure thing...a couple things to be mindful of here:

1) This was posted, not by Boney James, but by 10MFan on his youtube channel, then for our enjoyment (heaven forbid lol), he posted it in the Vendors section of this site (Boney & 10MFan clearly have a relationship going back a few years)...

2) While there's also most certainly a commercial element, there's no crime or shame in using a demonstration to show the versatility of a vendor's product, posted in the Vendor's section...you don't have to read posts in this section if any form of a commercial element offends you. People considering a mouthpiece may actually find this useful in making those decisions.

3) Mr. James was very likely doing this, on his own, to improve his playing on some level (I would kindly urge one to actually listen to the full message of Bob's vlog episode above: "Why & How I Do It"...).

4) While Boney could have been reading this down, it's much more likely that he transcribed it & in that process, committed it to memory...so likely (I don't know for sure), this is not him "showing off his reading skills." "Reading skills" are highly over rated in this type of endeavor.
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Dear lawd, ain't nobody safe from the hyenas on the internet? I can't mimic Stitt or James, so I'll tip my hat to both of them.
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How about a little Boney James playing some bebop alongside Sonny Stitt!

Very fun to hear this. Really a breath of fresh air to hear him in such a totally different setting than I normally hear him in. I thought this was wonderful.
And for my own advertising, it鈥檚 great to hear Boney displaying the warmer side of his 10MFAN Chameleon mouthpiece. He can make it as warm, or bright and punchy, as he wants. A lot of players are under the impression that it鈥檚 just a super powerful piece, but it鈥檚 got such incredible depth when it comes to flexibility and versatility.

Enjoy!

Thanks for posting this, Mark. And thanks for showing us how flexible the Chameleon can be. Very cool!
Best,
Ben
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It made me wonder what mouthpiece Sonny Stiit was playing.
鈥業 guess that鈥檚 the way my mind tends to work.
When you start shoving a mic into the bell of the tenor with all the reverb and effects, hard rubber seems the best way to go. Whatever hard rubber mouthpiece Kirk Whalum plays sounds great too.
Sounds great to me. And +1 to the versatility and depth of the Chameleon. Here he is only demonstrating one aspect, a nice warm tone quality. But I have one of these mpcs, and while I can't play as well as Boney, I can testify to the fact it can be played in a wide variety of styles. From raunchy blues to R&B to jazz. And no, I'm not being paid to promote it. :) Just nice to hear a smooth jazz guy actually playing some jazz (bebop), even if he's transcribing it and playing along with one of the all-time greats.
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