[keuhkoman]

Hi,

I know people are asking insane prices for vintage blue Jumbo Java A45 mouthpieces. I have three vintage blue Vandoren pieces. A blue Jumbo Java A35 in original box, Java (not Jumbo) A 95 and a Java (not Jumbo) T97. All in fantastic condition. How much do you think the value is for those?

 

[Hassles]

ask those in Greece - lots of counterfeit pieces now being sold.

Value - your choice but if original they're fetching a lot IF the buyer believes they're real.

 

[Pete Thomas]

I've had a few of these. Yes, I saw prices go insane then dip again. The colour looks wrong on those but I believe they are original as you say so (plus the evidence of the box) however you'd need to have photos that really do show the true proper colour for people to believe they aren't fakes.

 

[keuhkoman]

Thanks! Yep, that colour is there because of my iPhone camera I suppose... I have to get a proper camera and light set up because they are truly the real ones.

 

[jman1977]

Hi,

I know people are asking insane prices for vintage blue Jumbo Java A45 mouthpieces. I have three vintage blue Vandoren pieces. A blue Jumbo Java A35 in original box, Java (not Jumbo) A 95 and a Java (not Jumbo) T97. All in fantastic condition. How much do you think the value is for those?
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Having been in the market for these for about a year in the past (and owning 3 at various points, all of which I moved along because I didn't think they were hundreds of dollars better than a regular jumbo java), I have some idea of what they usually go for. The tenor is not that valuable in the market because Warren Hill (the reason the Blues are so valuable) plays alto. The A35 is somewhat valuable and will fetch anywhere between $700-$900. When I sold mine about a year ago I got around $975 for it.

The A95, I don't really know as those don't really come up for sale as often as the A35 and the A45, but I don't think it is in as much demand due to its gigantic tip opening. The A45 is what fetches the most money (it is what Warren plays) and would get up to $1,800 and even $2,000 in the market. I do think the market prices have gone down a bit, but that A35 will still get you around $800 ($900 if you're lucky).

EDIT: Just saw that the A95 and the tenor are not Jumbo Javas. Maybe $200 - $300 at the most, more likely less.

 

[jman1977]

Here's a T75 that recently sold for $150, which is in line with what I expected.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Va...413558?hash=item23d79f8eb6:g:GQoAAOSw8zdexn8Q

And here's an A95 that recently sold for $250:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mouthpiece...183089?hash=item3b414617b1:g:3QcAAOSwVJFeMyB6

As someone noted, you also have to account for the fact that there are so many fakes being sold right now, so that may affect your ability to sell yours for top dollar. If you list it on eBay, you want to make sure you write a convincing description (and use photos) that will persuade potential buyers that yours is not one of the fakes.

 

[14470]

From what I have seen, blue Jumbos go (or at least did so in the past) for a lot more than plain Javas. Definitely something to sell on eBay or via consignment from a store as opposed to SOTW.

 

[keuhkoman]

Thanks a lot for detailed info jman1977! I have never sold anything on eBay... Maybe I put that Jumbo Java A35 for sale here on SOTW and try to sell the other ones locally.

 

[jman1977]

Thanks a lot for detailed info jman1977! I have never sold anything on eBay... Maybe I put that Jumbo Java A35 for sale here on SOTW and try to sell the other ones locally.

No problem. You can try to sell the A35 here, but it will be very difficult for you to do so, and if you do, you'll probably have to settle for much less than what you would otherwise get for it. But it can happen. Good luck!

 

[14470]

If you don't want the hassle of eBay (who does?), you could try a place like Saxquest or alike. You will have to pay commission, but no doubt still better than SOTW.

 

[jman1977]

If you don't want the hassle of eBay (who does?), you could try a place like Saxquest or alike. You will have to pay commission, but no doubt still better than SOTW.

I still prefer eBay (and more increasingly, Reverb) for selling high value items (just not for seeking good deals anymore). You still have the highest chances of maximizing your sales proceeds through those platforms. As long as you're careful enough, the chances of you getting stiffed as a seller can be reduced significantly to negligible levels.

But since keuhkoman is inexperienced, maybe he does need the help of a dealer to sell the mouthpiece (unless he is in no rush to sell and is willing to do some research/groundwork first to known what to do and not to do on eBay).

 

[saxyjare01]

I suspect that all the hype around those pieces are going away since the player who the hype surrounds, Warren Hill, is coming out with his own line of mouthpieces.

 

[jman1977]

This has also been out for awhile now:

http://www.vintagesaxo.com/us/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=1000000011

The Korean kid who does really good covers on Youtube used to play a Blue Jumbo Java but now uses the Vintage Saxo copy. I'm not sure if it's his own line or if he is just an endorser.

 

[keuhkoman]

I am fully aware I could most likely maximize the profit using eBay, but still I really don't want to have the hazzle. In fact I seriously think to try Reverb...I have bought couple of thing through Reverb and my experiences has been good. Also Saxquest may be a good option. How do Reverb policies and rules differ from ebay? Or is there something in particular I should be aware of?

I still prefer eBay (and more increasingly, Reverb) for selling high value items (just not for seeking good deals anymore). You still have the highest chances of maximizing your sales proceeds through those platforms. As long as you're careful enough, the chances of you getting stiffed as a seller can be reduced significantly to negligible levels.

But since keuhkoman is inexperienced, maybe he does need the help of a dealer to sell the mouthpiece (unless he is in no rush to sell and is willing to do some research/groundwork first to known what to do and not to do on eBay).

 

[jman1977]

I am fully aware I could most likely maximize the profit using eBay, but still I really don't want to have the hazzle. In fact I seriously think to try Reverb...I have bought couple of thing through Reverb and my experiences has been good. Also Saxquest may be a good option. How do Reverb policies and rules differ from ebay? Or is there something in particular I should be aware of?

eBay will almost always side with buyers in case there is a dispute (regardless of merit). Reverb appears to be more balanced in their approach.

You may also want to join the various saxophone and mouthpiece groups on Facebook. That is another very good place to sell and you have a better chance of getting higher amounts than here on SOTW. In fact, there is someone who posted a WTB ad for a blue Jumbo Java in a few of those groups today (he recently bought a fake one on eBay and is in the process of returning it). Maybe you two can hook up and make a deal.

EDIT: I sent him a message telling him about your A35 and gave him a link to this thread. Hopefully you two can work something out.

EDIT 2: He said he already found an A55 that he's planning to buy. But it would be a good idea for you to join the FB groups in any event.

 

[whaler]

I sold an A55 Blue Jumbo Java for $1350 a few years ago.
You could play a kazoo and save money. One horrible mouthpiece.

 

[Sigmund451]

I sold an A55 Blue Jumbo Java for $1350 a few years ago.
You could play a kazoo and save money. One horrible mouthpiece.

Horrible in any color...

 

[jman1977]

I sold an A55 Blue Jumbo Java for $1350 a few years ago.
You could play a kazoo and save money. One horrible mouthpiece.

One man's kazoo is another man's siren call. So many people rave about the MC Gregory Model A's. When I finally got my hands on one I was so excited to play it... felt and sounded dead as a door nail. But yeah, I didn't really care as much for the Blue Jumbo Java's I owned in the past, but I can see how some people would love them.

 

[turf3]

Well, I was aware when these came out, and at the time there was no indication they were any different than the black ones except they were blue.

So playing high prices because they're blue is just another example of Beanie Baby Syndrome.

Sorry, OP, I can't help you with pricing your particular Beanie Babies, but you'd be well advised to sell before the bubble bursts.

 

[Pete Thomas]

It is indeed all down to cosmetics. The blue ones are the same as the black ones, except they have less blackness and more blueness. Jean Paul form Vandoren told me this and chuckled at the price frenzy that accompanied them for a while.

I think these were all great mouthpiece though, both the Java and Jumbo - depending on what you wanted from them.