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Hello, friends.

I hope that you will excuse the triviality of this thread, and I hope that this topic has not already been addressed exhaustively elsewhere on the site, but here it goes...

We have all seen CD covers of the saxophonist and his horn. Some are creative, and some are not. Sometimes the guy is standing in a dark alley with his saxophone hanging around his neck, for example. Sometimes he's just smiling with the horn in his hands, as if ready to play at any moment. Sometimes he's got his foot up on the upper rung of a barstool, with the saxophone reclined across his knee, and his hand on his chin, as if thinking about what to play next. Sometimes he's got the horn beside him on the sofa, while he, himself stares into the camera (I think Michael Brecker had that one).

I assume that we also like to have a professional photograph taken of ourselves, now and then. I had my first saxophone photograph professionally made recently, only because it was part of a special offer where you could have several shots during the same session, all for the same price (e.g., with the whole family, or alone with your wife, or alone with your saxophone, if you happened to bring one along.)

Many of you are skilled enough to have a CD made, so you have probably already thought about this as you designed the cover for it, but more likely, somebody else designed it for you, and you were never completely satisfied with the results, and have been on a quest for the perfect pose, ever since. Even if the rest of us never release a CD, we can still have a fascinating photograph of ourselves, in the meantime, that would make a great album cover someday, if we ever did, and hang it on the wall, in the meantime.

Consequently, I think that we could ALL benefit, to see creative shots uploaded to this thread, so that we could all get some good ideas for our own photographs or future album covers.

Now, I'm not necessarily suggesting that you upload photos of yourself, although you could feel free to do so. For the sake of privacy you could even pretend it was a picture of someone other than you, if you wanted to. I am mainly thinking of poses that you have come across on the Intenet, of other musicians, album covers that you think are just too cool to be ignored--even if they are not even of famous album covers or famous musicians--that might still be useful to the rest of. Feel free just to upload any picture, as long as you think it is PARTICULARLY INTRIGUING, and not just an ordinary pose of a guy in a pretty shirt, holding his sax.

In fact, as we go on this quest, in a sense, it would not be fair to include a picture with a really exotic background that the rest of us could never have access to ourselves, like the Egyptian pyramids, if our goal is to borow ideas from these photos, but then, again, feel free to upload whatever you like, as we may get some good ideas from one aspect of the picture unrelated to the background (e.g., the pose itself). Of course, the background is an important part of the overall photograph, but sometimes something as simple as a dark hallway or some unusual interior architecture, can create as much intrigue as a lush tropical waterfall.

NOTE: I am NOT particularly interested in poses that involve the musician playing the instrument on stage, and not necessarily in a picture of the musician playing the instrument at all, since these tend to be the most stereotypical images that we see everywhere else. But then, again, you may have come across an irresistable shot of such, that we should not ignore, so feel free to include it, if that's what you have. Maybe it's a man playing on a stage after hours, for example, when the entire audience has already left, or maybe there is only one person sitting in the audience at all. That kind of shot would, indeed, be artisitic, in spite of the usual "playing on stage" pose.

Keep in mind that, you don't have to like the musician's music, in order to appreciate his album-cover design, so no need for any apologies, as you upload the pictures.
 

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Yeah. Speaking of that, we ought to have a separate thread for the very worst photos ever taken of a person with the saxophone, like when the person is pretending to play and the mouthpiece is upside down and his right hand is on the left hand keys and his left hand is on the right hand keys and his fingers are not really on the keys at all like on some of us stock photography out there. Haha.
 

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I would think any google image search of the term “sax player“ would yield many valuable images for your research.
 

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I would have thought so, too, but I tried that. There were a couple of decent ideas, but I was really disappointed to see how few creative poses there were. Most of the ones available are just your stereotypical shots of a close-up with the man and the mouthpiece in his mouth, or stage shots.
 

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My post was mostly tongue-in-cheek, especially the part about “most here would agree.” I agree that there’s not much in the way of creativity out there. Mostly as you described above.
I think one of the best and most famous is the one of Dexter Gordon with the sax on his lap, gazing off into the distance with a pleased and thoughtful expression on his face, and surrounded by a cloud of cigarette smoke rising into the still air of the darkened stage.
 

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Google “Joshua Redman album covers”. I consider them artful and tasteful.
 

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The Joshua Redman shots are very nice ones, indeed.

The Dexter Gordon is also very good. (Too bad he had to be smoking, but the smoke creates part of the effect, I guess)
 

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My post was mostly tongue-in-cheek, especially the part about "most here would agree." I agree that there's not much in the way of creativity out there. Mostly as you described above.
I think one of the best and most famous is the one of Dexter Gordon with the sax on his lap, gazing off into the distance with a pleased and thoughtful expression on his face, and surrounded by a cloud of cigarette smoke rising into the still air of the darkened stage.
I love this photo of Dex and of course it is a world famous one, but I can't help thinking sometimes that the look of pleasure and satisfaction on his face is more from getting to relax and smoke than from what he was playing. Perhaps it should be entitled, "I'd play 48 choruses for a Camel."
 

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This may seem to be a radical thought...if you want a really good portrait with your instrument, hire a really good photographer...even with a pose you like, they need to know how to light it....if they’re cheap, there’s usually a reason....
 

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Here are a couple of photos I think are more than just ordinary.

The first of Prez is of course iconic, but his habit of holding the horn in various unusual positions was a unique aspect of the man's personality and style and so a photo of it makes it unique and stand out. Think about what is unique about you as a player and try and get that in the photo to make it standout from everyone else's.

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This photo of Bean is a classic old time portrait and since those are not common anymore, a photo in this retro style would be different, would it not?

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Okay, here is a great album cover from the label known for great photography. What's great about it you say? Well for one, the very fact that Joe's sax is in his gig bag and not out. I mean, who walks around the city streets with a sax in his hands unless they are busking. If busking is your thing and you want to show that, that's cool, but if you play in clubs then showing yourself in the city going to the gig, after the gig, coming from the gig, etc says so much more. Secondly, look at all that space in the right foreground leading your eye toward the lone man standing sculpturally with his instrument case at the apex of the perspective on the left. We read from left to right, remember? So the design makes our eyes take in the entire photo of man with sax bag set off by travertine marble. Pure, classical, design. Clean, modern (for that period) and powerful. Who is that man of mystery and what sounds does he make come out of that hidden horn? Buy the album and find out.

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Fabulous examples. This is what I'm looking for.

Although the biscuit example is way too abstract for my needs. Ha ha.

And the trombone, well... Nothing wrong with comedy.

Many of the old black-and-white photographs use sharp contrast and dark themes to create dramatic scenes, so some of the examples above are very nice even by today's standards. The bold shadow behind Bean is actually very effective. I simply love that photo, and had never seen it before.

The one of Hank Mobley is very dramatic. Beautiful.

Yes, as for the quality of the photographer, mine was simply excellent and fast as lightning. The only issue was that we were given a short period of time for the poses, however, so i thought that it would have been better for me to have been prepared with physical examples in hand for the photographer to use as examples. He and I did a quick check on Google, on the cell phones, to find some saxophone poses, so he did take some time with me, for the price. He even gave me the senior-citizen's discount, off the record, so I didn't know whether to slap him or thank him. (I am not old yet) In the end, it only cost me $25 per shot for an 8x10, and one of them was free. Not bad, eh? Especially considering that I was just going to hang it on the wall anyway.
 

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Some people are automatically outstanding photographic subjects because of their appearance and the power it carries. Eric Dolphy was one who comes immediately to mind. All the photographer had to do was take a shot of his profile with that distinctive beard and his bass clarinet over his shoulder and it was unique. Of course nobody else looked like that or could be mistaken for him which helped greatly as did it help that the photographer was a pro and so the profile was a darkly shadowed Silhouette which is what gives it its power.

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This photo, which was plagiarized countless times, was part of the inner pages of that Limelight delux album that was one of what perhaps were the best and most costly jazz albums produced up till then. Compare them to Prestige (cheapskate producers and employers who screwed everyone) and even Blue Note, they were "Coffee Table Book" quality. So naturally that photo of Eric would become a classic of Jazz art as much as the man himself did.

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Actually, all Dolphy had to do was play and he looked great, so a decent photographer could come up with a great shot as is the one on this New Jazz Album cover.

So if you want a photo that shows YOU, then determine what is distinctive and stands out about your appearance or smile or eyes or stance or way of holding the horn or playing (sweating, grimacing, emoting, etc) and show that.

Of course you need someone who is a good photographer and if you're in Barcelona I can recommend my good friend Antonio Narváez Dupuy who is a professional jazz photographer of some renown in Spain. Over the years he has photographed all the great jazz players who have played in Barcelona and his work is great. I know what's good because I was e a photographer and graphic artist myself.

BTW I want to mention that I have had both those albums in my record collection since they came out in the 60's. It was the summer of my senior year of HS and by luck or cosmic intervention my jazz buddy Andy and I decided to go to the Five Spot the night of July 16th, which was when Dolphy with Booker Little, Mal Waldron and Ed Blackwell were not only playing but recording for Prestige. The cuts recorded that night became the two albums later released as Live At The Five Spot, and I was there. So for 59 years I've heard the same set they played that night countless times over and it has been a different experience each and every one of them. Maybe that's why I became a jazz freak.
 

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LOL, I had that album when he was going around sporting that mohawk and being called Newk because he looked like Don Newcomb. He was my first great tenor idol and I ate up everything he played and did.
 
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