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Can Anyone tell me if this is a duckbill mouthpiece or give me any
information at all about it?
The details I can Read are as follows.
Berg Larsen (Slant sig).
70
DB
2
No SMS or M Markings.
Bullet chamber.
The markings 70 over 2 are quite clear but between them and off to the right are
what looks like the letters DB in a script style.
I have added a link to photos but the quality is not the best.
Most markings are very faint and readable only with magnifying glass.
http://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/...Warpironworks/
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There are better experts on Bergs on this forum than me. You will get a better answer if you can get photos on SOTW.
 

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I will try again.
<a href="http://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg625/Warpironworks/?action=view&current=photo.jpg
<a href="http://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg625/Warpironworks/?action=view&current=image6.jpg
<a href="http://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg625/Warpironworks/?action=view&current=image5.jpg
<a href="http://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg625/Warpironworks/?action=view&current=image4.jpg
Hope they come up this time.
Can somebody let me know?
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I think that the "duck bill" was only in metal and only a name given to it by players, not by the designer. It has an almost constant slope to the beak without the abrupt rise as on the hard rubber pieces. Anything that looks like "DB" on a hard rubber piece is probably part of some of the other information. Check out the pictures at http://theowanne.com/knowledge/mouthpiece-museum

Some the markings that I see on my hard rubber Bert Larsen, but may be too faint to read on yours would be "LONDON ENGLAND" on one side of the signature and "REG. DESIGN" on the other side with the number "851427/8" underneath. That is the same number as on my metal duck bill, so it must be for the design of the bullet chamber, as that is all the two pieces seem to have in common.

The lay designation is sometimes under the tip opening and chamber size in line with the table and sometimes to the right of it. Mine really looks like "SHS" instead of SMS, but I can't find anything that shows Larsen made an SHS facing.

Regardless of what the engraving says, only measuring it will tell you what it is.

Mark
 

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Thanks Mark.
All the information you mentioned is present, reg design number and slanted Berg Larsen logo.
After studying the piece more carefully, and getting a second opinion, what I thought was db could quite possibly be ms,
as in SMS.
I have looked at Theo Wanne's site and he does mention an early hard rubber duckbill
with a more abrupt slope on the beak.
But I am unsure as to whether they only came in a long table version.
Also on my research I have come accross several so called hard rubber duckbill mouthpieces selling for
pretty high prices. Some of which looked remarkably similar to mine.
I think that the term duckbill is thrown around quite a bit regarding Bergs, as it seems to attract much higher prices.
That is part of the reason why I am unsure as to what is and what is not a duckbill model.
I would really like to compare a known duckbill with the piece I have just to find out.
Thanks again for your response.
 
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