[hallkat]

Well I played the Millenium Link all weekend and in the end as someone mentioned the chamber is not the same as the NY it is the same as the STM...a little to bright for my taste...so this morning I went back to the music store and found a 7* Barone Vintage HR.....I feel in love with tone and projection instantly...I brought it home and have been playing it for the last 2 hrs and so far I must say this is the best HR mpc I have played,,,I have been playing along to some Zoot and the tone is very much the same....I hope this love affair lasts for a little while.....great piece Phil....any one else using these on Tenor...whats your thoughts..I am playing on a 1939 Crat Small Bell
Time to get back to the horn and try and keep this love affair going
Steve

 

[daigle65]

What reed are you using with it?
How does it subtone?

 

[hallkat]

Subtones easy and I am using Java 2.5

 

[Dr G]

Welcome to the dark(er) side, Steve.

 

[hallkat]

Hey George how ya doing....I think I have to get stuck on one mpc soon or my life span will be over and i still wont have the tone I am looking for....why do we keep looking for something better when we always seem to have it already ??

Steve

 

[Dr G]

Hey, Steve. Ya know, if you take a page from HonkBopSax or similar and take a week or two (or more) away from SotW and just practice, you'll find that you crave gear less and enjoy your sound more.

I'm trying to fill that prescription right now for myself. I've sold my extra mouthpieces, my "backup" tenor, extraneous seconds (such as my spare clarinets and alto flute) and soon I'll be back to the ground level. Ahhhh, simplicity.

But I'll always have many boxes of reeds at hand.

Here's wishing you a good reed!

 

[Chris Mickel]

I have a Barone vintage 8* they are great pieces. I'm glat you have found something you like. Play it and have fun.

Chris

 

[dstack79]

I have a Vintage 7 and love it. Truth be told, I rarely play it because it's a bit too dark for what I normally want. It's got a huge, fat sound that remains dark even when pushed. I couldn't believe how loud it can be played when I first got it. I used it with a rock band once. I like the RSJ 3S or 3M on mine.

-Dan

 

[Giganova]

Well I played the Millenium Link all weekend and in the end as someone mentioned the chamber is not the same as the NY it is the same as the STM...

I don't think this is correct. A Millenium is identical to a NY STM (apart from the plating, of course).

 

[Phil Barone]

I don't think this is correct. A Millenium is identical to a NY STM (apart from the plating, of course).

I agree with this. Phil

 

[Phil Barone]

Hey, Steve. Ya know, if you take a page from HonkBopSax or similar and take a week or two (or more) away from SotW and just practice, you'll find that you crave gear less and enjoy your sound more.

I'm trying to fill that prescription right now for myself. I've sold my extra mouthpieces, my "backup" tenor, extraneous seconds (such as my spare clarinets and alto flute) and soon I'll be back to the ground level. Ahhhh, simplicity.

But I'll always have many boxes of reeds at hand.

Here's wishing you a good reed!

Great advice, I wish I could see more of this on here. Phil

 

[Thomas]

I don't think this is correct. A Millenium is identical to a NY STM (apart from the plating, of course).

WRONG! Link wasn't even producing the NY STM in 2000-the Millenium is just a nickle plated regular old STM>.an advertising gimmick to sell mpcs on the coattails of all the other millenia junk that appeared around then

 

[Phil Barone]

WRONG! Link wasn't even producing the NY STM in 2000-the Millenium is just a nickle plated regular old STM>.an advertising gimmick to sell mpcs on the coattails of all the other millenia junk that appeared around then

Maybe I'm missing something but the NY STM has been around a long time.

Phil

 

[Giganova]

WRONG! Link wasn't even producing the NY STM in 2000-the Millenium is just a nickle plated regular old STM>.an advertising gimmick to sell mpcs on the coattails of all the other millenia junk that appeared around then

Not to start a fight here, but Babbitt started producing the NY STM in the late 1990s (if you don't believe me, just go to Theo's Link page and look it up), so yes, they were available in 2000. I have a regular NY STM that I bought in 1999 (shall I send you the receipt?) and a Millenium. Both pieces are identical and sound identical. It's not an advertising gimmick either: they are limited production (2000) pieces with a nickel plating, not more, not less. What's gimmicky about that? I had three Millenium (Millennia? :?) and all three are very good pieces.

 

[Phil Barone]

Not to start a fight here, but Babbitt started producing the NY STM in the late 1990s (if you don't believe me, just go to Theo's Link page and look it up), so yes, they were available in 2000. I have a regular NY STM that I bought in 1999 (shall I send you the receipt?) and a Millenium. Both pieces are identical and sound identical. It's not an advertising gimmick either: they are limited production (2000) pieces with a nickel plating, not more, not less. What's gimmicky about that? I had three Millenium (Millennia? :?) and all three are very good pieces.

No fight but the NY STM was around long before 1999 but I'll call babbit and ask them. Phil

 

[Ol' Mpc Doc]

WRONG! The Millenium is just a nickle plated regular old STM>.an advertising gimmick to sell mpcs on the coattails of all the other millenia junk that appeared around then

This is correct. THe "Millenium" chamber and barrel is identical to the "plain" STM. Both features are larger on the current "New York" STM.

 

[Giganova]

Well, if Doc and Thomas say it ... I stand corrected.

Doc -- do you know what year the NY model was released?

 

[ZenBen]

The NY Stm came out in the early '90's. 91? I was in the middle of my lesson at Humber College with Pat LaBarbera when one of the other students - who was working at a music store - came in with a few samples for Pat to try.

 

[brucemacdonald]

Phil's hard rubber mouthpieces are excellent - I bought one from him a couple of years back and I kind of regret selling it on. The only reason I did sell it is because it is so similar to my Early Babbitt Otto Link Tone Edge. But if I didn't have the Link I'd have kept the Barone. I wouldn't mind trying a wider tip opening (I'm on 7*, it would be nice to try a 9 or 9*).

 

[Phil Barone]

Phil's hard rubber mouthpieces are excellent - I bought one from him a couple of years back and I kind of regret selling it on. The only reason I did sell it is because it is so similar to my Early Babbitt Otto Link Tone Edge. But if I didn't have the Link I'd have kept the Barone. I wouldn't mind trying a wider tip opening (I'm on 7*, it would be nice to try a 9 or 9*).

Thanks Bruce. I read so many emails like this and if players just understood how I work they would all have PERFECT mouthpieces and would only have to find reeds. When you purchase one of my mouthpieces it's as good as it can be within itself or within its own class of mouthpiece. You have high baffle pieces and low baffle pieces and varying different combinations of both plus facings.

Facings have very little to do with sound and you can get some success with changing the facing but its minimal and facings have more to do with the feel than the sound. But yes, more open mouthpieces are darker and more closed facings are brighter when the chambers are the same. I faced 100's of mouthpieces for years before realizing in order to get dramatic results the chamber needed more observation.

Anyway, if you purchase one of my pieces I encourage you to send it back for adjustments until it's perfect. As long as we hooked you up with the correct model to begin with we can hone it. I know most players think that its magic or luck getting the right mouthpiece but it's not. Depending on the how good the mouthpiece maker is will depend on you success. Oh, and they gotta play too. Phil