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I am looking to get a new tenor once my yamaha sells. I am looking at the Vintage Tenor (bare Brass). Do you guys think this is worth my money? Or would it be better to save for like a Mark VI etc.?
 

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I love the sound of my bare brass vintage tenor! It is at my tech's place right now for some set up and personalization work, and I can't wait to get it back. I have only played one Mark VI (about 3 years ago?), and I have never played a Barone classic, but from what people say, they are more comparable to the Mark VI. The Vintage is more along the lines of the old Conns.

My Vintage has a very complex tone and is mouthpiece friendly. I would not hesitate to recommend a Barone to anyone. In addition to the Vintage tenor, I own a classic alto, and just sold a straight/ classic soprano (only because I have wrist problems that flare up with a straight sop.).

Good luck in your search. Not trying to sway you, but for the price of one "good" Mark VI, you could have a full stable of Barones...:mrgreen:
 

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Ok thanks guys :). I am thinking about getting a barone vintage tenor bare brass :)
 

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You would be hard pressed top find a better horn. And you would also be hard pressed to find a better horn at that price. I have Two Classic tenors and a Classic Soprano and another on the way.
 

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I have only ever seen photos of Mark VIs. Where I live they are as scarce as hen's teeth. But I have a Barone Vintage tenor, and it is a very nice instrument. It may pay to read the various threads on Mark VIs. It seems that when you find a good one, it really will be very good.
 

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I would definitely reconmend the Barone Vintage, a fantastic instrument considering the price, ok so i also play a Selmer reference 54 that just blows it away, but at five times the cost?....your decision i guess.....
 

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get the Barone.
 

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Get lacquer too.
 

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I would have quoted Phil. but there wouldn't have been room on the page!

Though he has an obvious bias, I totally agree...

As for the finish, get the one you like. Yes, the bare brass and vintage bare brass require a little more work to keep looking pretty...but who cares about pretty as long as it sounds good. Silver is also a hard finish to keep clean, but I think Phil has his lacquered so they clean like any other lacquered horn.
 

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I would have quoted Phil. but there wouldn't have been room on the page!

Though he has an obvious bias, I totally agree...

As for the finish, get the one you like. Yes, the bare brass and vintage bare brass require a little more work to keep looking pretty...but who cares about pretty as long as it sounds good. Silver is also a hard finish to keep clean, but I think Phil has his lacquered so they clean like any other lacquered horn.
I saw post recently where the guy was selling his lacquered Yamaha so he could buy an unlacquered Yamaha but I didn't have the heart to tell him it didn't make a difference. Sometimes it's just better to remain silent. Phil
 

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I would have quoted Phil. but there wouldn't have been room on the page!

Though he has an obvious bias, I totally agree...

As for the finish, get the one you like. Yes, the bare brass and vintage bare brass require a little more work to keep looking pretty...but who cares about pretty as long as it sounds good. Silver is also a hard finish to keep clean, but I think Phil has his lacquered so they clean like any other lacquered horn.
Yes, the silver-plated horns are lacquered so you don't have to do much if anything. It's the same as a lacquered horn but I think the bare brass horns may be the easiest to take care of because the schmutz doesn't really show up, it just stays hidden among all the faded metal. The bare brass horns aren't really smooth or look like little particles of dust and stuff could show up because it's dull and stuff is hidden very easily so there isn't anything to worry about. Phil Barone
 

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I have a gold plated Barone bari, which has lacquer over the gold. It has been played regularly since early 2008 and still looks almost new (some scratches). I would say the finish is holding up pretty well :) Other than the initial setup and repair from shipping damage (UPS must have dropped it pretty hard), I have only needed 1 pad adjustment.
 

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I would definitely reconmend the Barone Vintage, a fantastic instrument considering the price, ok so i also play a Selmer reference 54 that just blows it away, but at five times the cost?....your decision i guess.....
That's two totally different horns. You should try and play a Barone Classic up against your 54. The 54 and the Classic have a lot more in common than the Vintage and 54. Vintage is a spread sounding horn while the Classic and 54 are focused with a lot of core in the sound.
 

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Yes, the silver-plated horns are lacquered so you don't have to do much if anything. Phil Barone
My Silver plated vintage alto looks as much like a jewel as it did when it first arrived. Just an occasional soft cloth...no tarnishing since it's lacquered. Less buffing time = more huffing time!

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I love the sound of my bare brass vintage tenor! It is at my tech's place right now for some set up and personalization work, and I can't wait to get it back. I have only played one Mark VI (about 3 years ago?), and I have never played a Barone classic, but from what people say, they are more comparable to the Mark VI. The Vintage is more along the lines of the old Conns.
Since I see that Phil is participating in this thread . . . are there any construction differences between the Classic and Vintage? The specs seem like the Vintage is a higher-end horn: detachable bell/bow, fancier pads, blued steel springs, etc. but I don't know if these are actual differences or just what's been put on the web page, or if real, whether they are a "difference that makes a difference".
 

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While you wait for an official response I think I may be able to shed a little light on this. The classic has a larger bell and projects a little louder (more like a Mark VI) while the vintage is setup more like an old Conn. I am quoting someone here but I don't remember where I saw this.
 

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While the vintage is setup more like an old Conn, it is also the one with the bigger bell compaired to the classic. At least that's the case with my Vintage Alto, and I believe that holds true for the tenors as well.
 
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