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I could swear there was a thread somewhere in which was compiled a short list of the weights of various baritone sax weights, a comparison chart. I can't seem to find it, maybe someone else has better luck? I couldn't find it in a google search either...
 
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mark_m said:
I could swear there was a thread somewhere in which was compiled a short list of the weights of various baritone sax weights, a comparison chart. I can't seem to find it, maybe someone else has better luck? I couldn't find it in a google search either...
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well the custom search of this forum finds one thread with ease, but it doesn't exactly have a list, the tenors do have one

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?9251-bari-sax-weight
 
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There has been discussion that the Chinese baris are actually heavier. If anyone wants to weigh their B901 (without mouthpiece) I'll weigh my Kessler Solist which is supposed to be a clone.
 
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From my limited experience, the center of gravity, balance, length and angle of neck, strap ring and thumb hook position etc seems to contribute more to the perceived weight than actual mass. While weight can be of interest for whatever reasons, it isn't that meaningful measure if the concern is ergonomics, or how "easy on the neck" a bari is.
 
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My Kessler Solist is 12lb, 11oz. Case is around 14lb, as I recall. Have you considered what carrying the combined 30lb weight on one side of your body will do to your back?

As others have said, all are going to weigh roughly the same. But the forces on your neck and back will vary greatly according to the design of the neck strap ring, your posture and whatever harness you use. A few extra ounces of metal here or there won't be the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. No matter what you get, there are going to be big forces on your body.
 
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A couple of ounces won't matter but a couple of pounds definitely will. My protech bari case is not too heavy 'though I've thought about getting a lighter one. But I play bari more in my studio anymore than gigging for the obvious reasons; I've shifted primarily to tenor since my accident but I have ultimately more connection to bari. I'd love to know how much heavier a low A Couf or Keilwerth is than the corresponding Bb. And how much heavier a VI low A is than a Bb VI, if anyone happens to know.
 
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A couple of ounces won't matter but a couple of pounds definitely will. My protech bari case is not too heavy 'though I've thought about getting a lighter one. But I play bari more in my studio anymore than gigging for the obvious reasons; I've shifted primarily to tenor since my accident but I have ultimately more connection to bari. I'd love to know how much heavier a low A Couf or Keilwerth is than the corresponding Bb. And how much heavier a VI low A is than a Bb VI, if anyone happens to know.
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If you only play in the studio, get a stand/peg for the horn. Then the forces on your back and neck are zero, even if you get a 17 lb bass sax, which has 2-1/2 feet more tube than a low A bari.

My guess is a typical low Bb is 11-12 (my Conn was 11.5) and low A 12-13. Will be interesting to see the actual numbers.
 
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there are many options to relieve the back from any weight, one will be the long S

SAX RAX stick , couple to something lieke the Saxholder you won't feel anything

Saxsupport is nearly the same and probably better ( it is tied to your horn )





 
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mark_m said:
I could swear there was a thread somewhere in which was compiled a short list of the weights of various baritone sax weights, a comparison chart. I can't seem to find it, maybe someone else has better luck? I couldn't find it in a google search either...
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I made a note of the weights of my baritones a few years ago.

Mark VI Low Bb 10.9 lbs
SML Low A ( Jiffy clamp attatched ) 13.1 lbs
YBS 32 12.2 lbs

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What I really wanted was just the chart I'd seen previously. If enough people here know the weights of their horns perhaps we can recreate it.

I've started a google doc spreadsheet with info from this thread and the other linked to. If anyone wants to add to it you should be able to. Just click or double-click in a box and you should be able to type. Let me know if it works or doesn't. If you want to add something and don't know or don't want to be bothered with google docs let me know and I'll add it. If you provided info in this thread and I didn't capture it in the chart, let me know. If model and A/Bb variant aren't given I haven't entered it. Once there's enough data there we can add it more directly to this thread.

Thanks and thanks for all the thoughts so far:)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/125owKfkTsqHHra3zRQ1TJA44QsZbGX907NkDi9PVA68/edit?usp=sharing
 
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