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B3 to F3

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I have a difficult time playing B3 to F3(my horn, alto) Jumping from B3 to Fork F3 doesnt really work well because of the position of my pointer finger. It is even more of a pain to play all palm keys simultaneously for the F3.

I can do this fairly fast but it is killing me because i want to go faster. Its a cleanliness issue. I need to be clean about every note interaction. Is there a trick around this or am i insane. I can play it perfect at 120 sixteenths but the piece calls for 160!

what can i do?

also there is a section where it goes from A2 to F3 and another one Bb3 to F3

please help.

marcus
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Sorry, my friend. No shortcuts here. Keep practicing.
hakukani said:
Sorry, my friend. No shortcuts here. Keep practicing.
Yup and Slow it down. To play fast you need to first play slow.
Depending on which model of sax you play, palm key risers might help by shortening the distance the hand has to travel to play the high F. Keeping the hand relaxed and as close to the keys as possible when you practice is the solution. As Hakukani said there is no easier way to play this note combination.
I agree with palm key risers. I use them on every horn.

Alto (Conn 6m) : D and F keys
Tenor (The Martin) : All three
Soprano (Buescher TT) : E and F
littlemanbighorn said:
Yup and Slow it down. To play fast you need to first play slow.
Agreed, that's the ticket, Speedy. :) Work on your precision.
If your not already, drop C1 from the F3 fingering. This might help the speed.
A.Smith said:
If your not already, drop C1 from the F3 fingering. This might help the speed.
:? C1 is low C. You don't use that for F3 do you?
BruteCircuit said:
I have a difficult time playing B3 to F3(my horn, alto) Jumping from B3 to Fork F3 doesnt really work well because of the position of my pointer finger. It is even more of a pain to play all palm keys simultaneously for the F3.

I can do this fairly fast but it is killing me because i want to go faster. Its a cleanliness issue. I need to be clean about every note interaction. Is there a trick around this or am i insane. I can play it perfect at 120 sixteenths but the piece calls for 160!

what can i do?

also there is a section where it goes from A2 to F3 and another one Bb3 to F3

please help.

marcus
What piece are you playing?
caprices

It's a set of extremely caprices that a professor of mine wrote for me. They are insane. He has not published them yet but I worked with him to come up with difficult passages. Torture.

Thanks for all the advice. Hopefully over the next year or so I will increase my speed and fluency with that particular interval.

Practice. Practice. Practice.

Ha

thanks again

Marcus

oh yeah by the way his name is Timothy Melbinger

He also wrote a saxophone sonata that I am sure he would send you a copy of. Sweet.
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jazzbluescat said:
:? C1 is low C. You don't use that for F3 do you?
C1 is your high d key! I discuss fingerings using the C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,ta,tc,tf method for palm and side keys.
A.Smith said:
C1 is your high d key! I discuss fingerings using the C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,ta,tc,tf method for palm and side keys.
Ack! Speak English. I no unnestand da kine tahk.
hakukani said:
Ack! Speak English. I no unnestand da kine tahk.
No big ting, brah. I teenk maybe you gotta be from down undah.
Well, one thing that you could look at is the placement of the front F key. On Selmer and Yanagisawas that key is placed too far to the right. If you move that then your finger doesn't have to go as far to hit the front F key.
A.Smith said:
C1 is your high d key! I discuss fingerings using the C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,ta,tc,tf method for palm and side keys.
I don't understand. When did they make high C fingering a palm D?:? I've always used LH middle finger and OK.
Use the alternate f key, you know, that tear shaped key above your LH1 key? The fingering is alt F, RH2. Try some altissimo fingerings for F3 as well if you're good with altissimo. The trick is to press the alt F not with the tip of your pointer finger, but with the join part and press down your middle finger at the same time.

Good luck.
jrvinson45 said:
No big ting, brah. I teenk maybe you gotta be from down undah.
Nope. It's all Greek to me.
Dog Pants said:
Nope. It's all Greek to me.
Hooopah!
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