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Hello,

I recently acquired a model 156 aristocraft tenor that is terribly out of tune on all of the palm keys and altissimo F# + G. These notes are so flat that if I push in the mouthpiece to compensate for it, the low notes sound crappy because I'm lipping down so much. If I play normally the high E sounds like a high Eb.
I have been playing sax for about 10 years and have never come across this problem before, so I'm certain it is not my embochure.
Oh I even tried cutting down the cork on the neck to increase the mouthpiece chamber size, and letting the cork hang over to decrease the chamber size, no luck.
 

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What mouthpiece do you use?
 

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I am using a selmer soloist E and i've tried 2, 2 1/2, 3, and 3 1/2 reed strength, all with the same result.

I haven't checked the palm key heights, but I think they are opening enough so that the pitch isn't being lowered by them, but i'll have to check that tonight (I'm at work right now).
 

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I'll try opening the palm keys not all the way to see if that's the problem when I get home then. Thanx for the help.
 

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Sounds like its badly set up as they are fine horns normally. Try playing alt high F (Front F and C ) then add G and G# for high E , if it sharp just close G#
Dave
 

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Well, I tried the front high F and it was even more flat than the palm key F. However, the front altissimo mechanism wasn't completely opening the F palm key. When i opened it all the way, I got pretty much the same pitch as the original palm F fingering. The front E adding the G# was almost right on pitch.
 

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crappybundy said:
Hello,

I recently acquired a model 156 aristocraft tenor that is terribly out of tune on all of the palm keys and altissimo F# + G. These notes are so flat that if I push in the mouthpiece to compensate for it, the low notes sound crappy because I'm lipping down so much.
Well, I hope you get this problem solved or you might have to change your name to CrappyAristocrat!:( Seriously, though, I suggest you take it in to a professional repairman because mine plays almost perfectly in tune all the way up. I'm sure it's just a simple adjustment of some kind. Good luck.
 

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If the alternate E is in pitch it has to be the palms and possibly a couple of the L/H keys out of adjustment and a simple fix for the right tech
Dave
 
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