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I've been a member here on good ole Sax on the Web since 2004. I have suffered from the GAS thing particularly on Soprano; however, my tenor set-up really hasn't changed for a long time.

Tenor - I bought my tenor sax 32 years ago.
Reeds - Played Rico Jazz Select since they first came out
Ligature - 2 Screw Selmer (I played a Rovner early on switching around 2000)
Mouthpiece - Tenney Slant Tone Edge Links since 2003 or so. (I have 4 of them)
Neck Strap - JazzLab - (Had to switch due to Neck issues but had it since they first came out maybe 4 years)

I've tried other gear over the years but I end becoming distracted along with costing a lot of money. After a month or so - I end up back on my 'go-to' gear. I've even had the same wireless set-up for probably 15 years. Sorta sad - I know there's better stuff out there but time is getting away.

Anyone out there have a long term relationship with gear? If so, what works for you?
 

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I don't go through horns too often anymore. (Mouthpieces might be a different story.) I've had my current YTS for 3 years and I love it, but I can't say for sure that I'll have it for 32 years. However, if I was playing a good '62 Mark VI, maybe I would!
 

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I don't go through horns too often anymore. (Mouthpieces might be a different story.) I've had my current YTS for 3 years and I love it, but I can't say for sure that I'll have it for 32 years. However, if I was playing a good '62 Mark VI, maybe I would!
BeriMelt - You've been a member since 2003 - Wow! Nice to hear from a fellow 'ole timer' member.
 

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My alto setup has been stable for a couple decades, but I seldom play it anymore.

Now, on tenor, while my GAS reduced significantly in past couple years, there are just too many tempting options out there. I continue to experiment. Trying to trade more than buying these days since I already cumulated a good amount of nice mouthpieces to offer by now.
 

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I’ve been trying the different mpcs I have since being home with no gigs. Diving into recording and really paying attention to how different mpcs sound and the presence they have recorded has been eye opening. Mostly what I’ve preferred live has not worked or sounded the best so I’ve been playing some different things. Different set of criteria in a way, does make me curious to try some things out I may have overlooked in the past though.
 

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TENOR: I've been on my Robusto tenor mpc since before it was released 7 years ago.

ALTO: I never found an alto piece that I really loved, which is why I made my Showboat model, and I've been on that ever since.

SAXOPHONE: Same Barone Vintage tenor sax that I've enjoyed for years, and my Just Saxes alto sax from my friend Paolo.

REEDS: Fiberreed Carbon on both.

I don't get caught up in gear, because I have what I LOVE.
I play on two inexpensive horns and just add my mouthpieces to them. HEAVENLY....

The guys who do get into the gear thing, usually just haven't found that killer set-up for themselves yet, or they already have and don't know it and continue to search for something that might be a little better, or they just like to get different gear for enjoyment.
I get it.

Glad you are staying where you are at, Tony, because you sound happy there.

As the song goes....
If you're happy and you know it, you found your gear.
If you're happy and you know it, stay right there.
If you're happy and you know it, and you really want to show it,
Just post a little soundclip right on here!
 

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On soprano, I am committed to the Yamaha 82ZR (though I love Yanagisawa sopranos) and a now a partially refaced Selmer S90 190 with Boston Sax Shop reeds and an Ishimori two screw inverted ligature. I love the set up, but would love to buy a beautiful piece of fancy Yanagiasawa solid silver jewelry.

On alto, long story, but same set up for years with a Reference 54 alto

On tenor, I love the Yamaha 82Z II with the C1 neck. As for mouthpieces, I've been all over the map until the last few weeks when I finally settled on an Otto Link Florida STM 7*, Boston Sax shop reeds with an inverted two screw Ishimori ligature.

These set ups will hold for quite a while.
 

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Well, I'm a poster child for not switching around much. Dates of purchase:

Alto sax - 1978, main mouthpiece around 1998
Tenor sax - 1999, main mouthpiece 1978
Baritone sax - 1984, main mouthpiece 2006

Soprano I just really picked up again recently though I am using a soprano mouthpiece I bought about 2000, and bass sax the same, so those setups haven't had sufficient time to age.
 

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GAS has been hitting me hard, lots of MPC swaps, and Reeds. But, otherwise, I've had the same alto for 12 years, before that I was on a Bundy for 8 years. Had the backup that I had sent overseas when I was deployed. My CE Winds tenor was here for 10 years, just got replaced with an Eastman. My Soprano, has been the same for 10 years.

Done searching on setup for for alto too. The Daddy-O/Forestone reed combo is perfect for me.
 

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Alto, tenor, soprano and bari. Haven't changed mouthpieces on any of them in ten years or more. Maybe even fifteen or more. This of course was after doing the SOTW mouthpiece merry-go-round for a few years finding the best match for each of my horns. But I did pick up another curved soprano last year to use for my brass band gigs. Not an impulse buy however, but necessary. And I use the same mouthpiece I play with my other curvie.
 

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I have my own S20 and that’s that, but because I like to buy saxophones ( and then sell them) I have bought lots of horns and have had the chance to play plenty of different ones.

That doesn’t mean to say that I want something else! I have bought another the same mouthpiece ( Brancher J27) just in case and that’s it.
 

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You can really get lost in the GAS shuffle and end up with a lot of stuff that doesn't work.
IMO that's worthwhile if you end up finding one setup that works really well for you. Plus, once you went through a bunch of stuff that doesn't work (for you), that alleviates the anxiety about the grass being greener somewhere else.
 

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I’ve had my current tenor for about ten years and my back up tenor for twenty. I think it’s very unlikely I’ll change my main horn but I’m thinking of changing the support because it’s so different that I find switching to it quite a trial, so I think it should go. Trying to replace it with something more suitable will of course pitch me into the maelstrom, not only trying to get a good horn but also one that doesn’t compete with number one. Fortunately what I want is relatively hard to find although it’s going to cost more than I think. But I don’t have gas with horns and only a bit of flatulence with mouthpieces. I been playing off and on for about 40 years and in all that time I’ve had two altos and three tenors.
 

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My go to alto is the second alto I ever bought (1934 Aristocrat) but I just accidentally found a cruddy looking MPC in an estate sale and after going back and forth a few times, that's it - and it didn't cost anything, it was a left over runt. On tenor it's the '51 Aristocrat with my RPC 115B - and that won't change either. On sop, it's my Morgan Vintage Jazz, I've tried a few others over time and none came close. On bari/bass, another Morgan which is here to stay. The only thing that changes is the reeds, currently mostly Marca Superieure and BSS. Bottom line, it's nice to try some things once in awhile but I have no desire to buy anything and whatever I have is what I always come back to.
 

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Well, I'm a poster child for not switching around much. Dates of purchase:

Alto sax - 1978, main mouthpiece around 1998
Tenor sax - 1999, main mouthpiece 1978
Baritone sax - 1984, main mouthpiece 2006

Soprano I just really picked up again recently though I am using a soprano mouthpiece I bought about 2000, and bass sax the same, so those setups haven't had sufficient time to age.
For that matter, I've been playing Vandoren 3s on everything except baritone since the early 1980s and Lavoz Med Hard on baritone ever since a friend gave me something like 25 boxes back in the late '90s.

I have friends who switch equipment like I change my socks, and I never see (hear) that it makes an iota of difference. I'm glad that particular obsession never got hold of me.
 

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I've had sort of 3 major stages '78-'92, '93-'07, and '08-present in terms of tenors. For altos '90-'93, '94-'03, and '04-present - though around 2004-2005 when I purchased my present Yani B992 bari I pretty much quit playing alto though I still own two. I have switched flutes twice in the last 5 years after playing a Yamaha YFL-481 from '96-'15. At this point I play/practice on my Barone tenor, Yani B992, Barone Low Bb bari, and Muramatsu GXIII a few times every week. I also play alto flute and my TM Custom tenor a few times a month. I own a pile of sax mouthpieces but I've played almost exclusively on the same setups on each horn for over 10 years.

There a lot of good reasons to change gear but probably just as many if not more bad. However, at the end of the day, the people that change gear constantly are the ones providing the liquidity to the saxophone market which gives me the opportunity to try some neat new stuff and occasionally buy lightly used pre-owned gear at really good prices so who am I to question it.
 

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I used to get an itch every three years or so to wholesale change all of my gear. And for many years I was very caught-up in gear, specifically mouthpieces/ligs/reeds and, to a lesser extent, horns. Lately I've been feeling more settled as I've adopted a "reliability and simplicity" standard for all of my gear.

What's the "best" ligature that's easy to use and reliable? - for me, the Rovner Versa. Now I use a Versa on both alto and tenor and sold my FLs, Olegs, etc. One less thing for me to think about.

Same with reeds: what reeds do I like, are easily sourced, and relatively consistent? - for me, Java Greens (although a friend recently gifted me some Rigottis that are very nice). Now I play Java Greens on all of my horns. One less thing to think about.

Mouthpieces are different. On soprano and bari, because I don't play a lot of either, I've stuck with the same (relatively vanilla) mouthpieces for a very long time. They do what I need them to do. I like my sound on both. And I don't play enough of either horn to even care if there's something "better" out there.

Alto and tenor mouthpieces are a little different. Because of GAS, I advocate for every alto and tenor player owning excellent examples of a couple classic mouthpiece designs. For me, on alto it's a great Phil-Tone Custom Meyer (so good I sold my vintage NY Meyer) and a vintage Slant Link. On tenor, it's a refaced Selmer SS Soloist and a vintage HR Slant Link. I favor the Links on both voices. Your preferences may vary (i.e., you may want an excellent Brilhart-inspired piece, etc.). This allows me to occasionally vacillate between the two pieces if I get a case of GAS while knowing that both pieces are excellent. Key for me is knowing that the mouthpiece isn't the problem - it's (almost) always ME.

Horns are similar to mouthpieces. I've owned the same soprano and bari for years and have no desire to change or even try other horns (invites confusion/distraction). I owned the same Mark VI tenor for 15 years, foolishly sold it, and have yet to find a tenor I "click" with in the same way. That said, I'm quite content using my TH&C for bar-honking gigs and my SML Gold Medal I for more intimate affairs. Maybe one day I'll find another VI or a SBA or a BA or a Yanagisawa tenor that has the same connection as my earlier VI, but I'm not actively searching.

I love altos and have rarely played the same alto for more than three years at a time. The two that lasted the longest were a beautiful silver Buescher Aristo Series I (shouldn't've sold it) and a YAS-82ZUWOF# (great horn, but not often missed). There were many, many others in-between (SDAs, Series II, other Bueschers, a "The Martin," a Vito/Beaugnier "Special," and on). Currently I have a few altos in the closet, but for that last few years I most often play my '56 Mark VI alto or my Buescher TH&C (big band gigs). I recently purchased a Vito/Beaugnier Model 37 that lives on a stand in my practice space as a "grab-n-go" practice horn (life with a baby).

The thing to internalize is that you're going to sound 95% like YOU regardless of setup. It's a hard hitting fact but, once you reach a certain attainable level, any differences you perceive across setups, absent MAJOR changes, aren't perceptible to 99.8% of the people who will hear you. For too long I was letting the gear hunt get in the way of my development as a player. Now, I have gear that I trust, that I don't need to think about, and I can focus on ME and what I'm doing with the gear.
 

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I've been playing my Balanced Action tenor since I was in high school in the 70s. I messed around with Links, Bergs and Dukoffs but settled in with a Guardala Studio in the mid-80s and played it exclusively until taking a big band gig about 4 years ago, when I tried a Robusto to blend with the section a bit better. I found I could cover my R&B gigs just as well with the Robusto, and it became my main piece from then on (thanks, Mark!). I picked up an SA80 II as a backup horn a few years ago and it's a nice horn, but I only play it if the BA is in the shop.

Reeds have been a different story. I was playing Vandoren green and red Javas on the Guardala and was happy for a while. When I moved to Phoenix in the 90s it was so dry they dried out while I was playing, so I switched to Fribracell, which was the best synthetic reed at the time. When I left Phoenix I tried a cane reed liked the feel so much better that I switched back to the Javas until a few years ago when I found the quality to be pretty uneven, so I switched to Rigotti and have been using them ever since.

On the rare occasions I play alto I have a late 50s 6M, no RTH or microtuner, but it plays well. I use a Meyer or Vandoren Jumbo A45, depending on the gig.
 
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