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Recently, the email address I associated with SOTW has been flooded with spam. I really don't use this particular email address for other purposes, so my question to the SOTW ownership is...

Do you sell our email addresses or otherwise distribute them to third parties?
 

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I've gotten an increase of almost three-fold in about the last two months. Will changing the password resolve this?
 

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For the past couple of months, my e-mail (the only one I use) has been flooded with all sorts of spam - porno, weed, men's "medication", and other things, including senders whose names are very closely related to actual folks in my contacts (just a letter or two off of the real spelling). My SPAM filter captures it all and it immediately goes into my JUNK folder, but it is still annoying. Almost all of them have an address originating in Germany (I assume that a ".de" means Germany).

I immediately empty the JUNK folder but the next time I open my computer, the JUNK folder is filled with new spam-e-mails.

It is obvious that somehow, someone got into my computer's ADDRESS BOOK, and are making up senders' names based on those in my contacts, but I have no clue as to who, when, how, or where. I know why.

Similarly, my land-line telephone at home constantly rings - calls from alleged contractors, alleged real estate agents, surveys, the IRS (supposedly), Microsoft (supposedly - I have a MAC), and a myriad of annoying calls. We finally bought a phone system that allows us to block certain numbers and that greatly reduced the number of calls, except from those boiler-room operations that run number-spoofing operations. I sometimes play with them, curse them, threaten them, or just hang up and enter their number in the blocking program. Of course, when the callers are constantly showing a different number, the call won't be blocked, hence the constant ringing.

And then folks say, "That's why I got rid of my land-line." Well, I'm getting more and more spam-calls on my cell-phone, too. DAVE
 

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Yes, a lot of spam (never had much before)
 

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No increase whatsoever. In fact, over the past ten years, I have gotten less-to-almost-none. The most persistent ones are from representatives of the retirement homes and Depends adult diapers. I'm not that old or feeble or incontinent to require either. I don't even get Verago* or Vitalis ads anymore.

But when I lived in China, I'd get a free sample of Verago* whenever I went to the Yàodiàn. That was salesmanship. * [SOTW blocks names of certain proprietary drugs to prevent the corruption of minors].
 

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0 increases. And staying away from Facebook,amazon and eBay has made a big difference. Work computer I have different email on and don’t mix personal & work on it. Work unit one Facebook amazon & eBay get used and a lot more.....400-1000+ junk mails every Monday morning get dumped.
Dave, opt out on your phone services.
Get some relief.
 

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Do you sell our email addresses or otherwise distribute them to third parties?
Asking ownership of the site again. If such is the case, I do not consent.
 

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I am getting pure, unadulterated spam from multiple senders. Again, this is an email account I only use for SOTW purposes, and it rarely if ever gets email. Recently however, it's flooded with spam on a daily basis. Today there were nine such emails in my spam-catcher.

Most are from: [email protected] with various offers from Custom Canvas Prints, CBD Oil and fake shipping notices/scams naming "oumayma.elbouakra" as the chosen one. Also, [email protected] with solve your tax problems and [email protected] offering meetings with discrete women.

That's just today. Anyhow, it would be interesting to know if anyone else on SOTW is getting the same stuff. Otherwise I don't know how else my SOTW email address got out there.
 

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Like I posted before, most of mine come from ".de". I have not seen the senders described by Grumps, but the subject-matter is similar.

Given the telephone scams and spam I've received, I wonder if these e-mail spammers have some sort of a program that generates e-mail addresses (yes, millions of them) just like they generate telephone numbers, both for them to call AND the spoofed telephone numbers they show as their caller ID?

If so, it could be that SOTW is innocent in that the spammer's computer-program made up Grump's e-mail address, among many others, then sends out blasts of bogus e-mails to all of the self-generated e-mail addresses.

OR, it could be that someone got into Grump's address-book/CONTACTS (like they got into mine), and once that happens, the info goes all over the internet.

I know, the variations in e-mail addresses (and telephone numbers) seem to be endless, but that IS what is happening with telephones - made-up numbers generated by computers. Not too long ago, after receiving a spam telephone call, I called the caller's ID number back. Some guy answered and he denied that he'd called me. He was just some hapless Joe whose cellphone number had been created and duplicated by the spammer's equipment. I've also had the reverse where some irate person had received a spam call from my telephone number, which of course I didn't make the call.

On other occasions, I receive the same multiple spam telephone calls from continually changing telephone numbers. And then there are the faked Linkdin (spelling?) notices that someone has searched my name. But the e-mail address isn't Linkdin, it comes from ".de". I don't bother to click the provided link to remove me from their mailing list because obviously that will lead to a hack, not a removal of my e-mail address.

It is beyond annoying. Sometimes I invite the callers to come to my home and meet my 12-ga. DAVE
 

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the funniest thing just happened the notification of this thread appeared...in the spam folder! :)
 

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OR, it could be that someone got into Grump's address-book/CONTACTS (like they got into mine), and once that happens, the info goes all over the internet.
Impossible. My email account in question has no address book or contacts. Perhaps it was the other way around, and someone got into SOTW's email files, but this is not an issue of me being hacked or having lax personal security measures. My email account in question was used to sign up for SOTW nearly 20 years ago, and generally, it only receives SOTW notifications. That's why I was wondering if anyone else has seen a recent uptick in spam to their personal SOTW email accounts. But I take Ed at his word that SOTW hasn't distributed our email account info, but that doesn't mean that someone hasn't gotten into them. So perhaps they should be on guard for such a thing if other members are getting more spam on email accounts they only use for SOTW.
 

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Maybe so, maybe not. I've learned to NOT say "impossible" over the years, especially when it comes to the nefarious workings of the internet, current technology, and the like.

I liken it to those who poo-poo the common practice of not listing full serial numbers (why take the risk when we don't know what schemes are being worked up by crooks?). I don't think any of us fully understand 1) the criminal mind, and 2) what is possible in breaching our security measures.

Oh, I understand the thrust of your query, Grumps, but I'm not willing to discount any theoretical scenarios when it comes to these things. DAVE
 

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I don't get a lot. I unsubscribe to them if it's something I'm not interested in. What bothers me is the incessant phone calls. I get three or four every day. They usually spoof a local phone number and are selling timeshares or solar power. I was blocking them but it's a losing battle. They just automatically spoof a new number when the old one goes dead. Has anyone ever bought something from a spam caller? Not me. If I want to make a major purchase I tend to start my research weeks in advance. Talk to people I know, look at Consumer Reports, read Yelp reviews. Then I make the purchase. Even then you can't always be sure you're getting exactly what you think you want.
 

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Impossible. My email account in question has no address book or contacts. Perhaps it was the other way around, and someone got into SOTW's email files, but this is not an issue of me being hacked or having lax personal security measures. My email account in question was used to sign up for SOTW nearly 20 years ago, and generally, it only receives SOTW notifications. That's why I was wondering if anyone else has seen a recent uptick in spam to their personal SOTW email accounts. But I take Ed at his word that SOTW hasn't distributed our email account info, but that doesn't mean that someone hasn't gotten into them. So perhaps they should be on guard for such a thing if other members are getting more spam on email accounts they only use for SOTW.
Are you using this email to email other SOTW members about stuff? All it takes is one of those people to get an infected computer and then your email is out there being traded around or sold or on the dark web............
 

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Fellas... stay on track here. This isn't a generic spam discussion. It's solely in regard to whether or not the email account you use for SOTW is getting increased spam over the last month or two.


Are you using this email to email other SOTW members about stuff?
The last email I sent from the account in question was over a year ago. And I'd only sent four or five others in the three years before that. But looking back at mailings from many years ago, I may have linked it to another commercial service that perhaps was purchased by another entity. But it just seemed to balloon out of nowhere over the last month. I suppose though if there are any others like me who use a dedicated SOTW email address, it would be great to hear from them to see if it's just me that is experiencing this.
 

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FWIW, I use the same email address for the various forums I belong to, and practically only for forum membership and dealing with members, and, nope, no increase in spam so far, touch a whole forest worth of wood.

Kenneth
 

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Hi Grumps, I use a separate email address for SOTW also. I have seen no spam on it over the last year, which seems odd to me, but no spam at all.
 

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Grumps, you may want to go back and refresh your memory on the newsletter fiasco referred to on post #9. All of our information is exposed to a third-party. And one month after that thread died all of the problems began. I have yet to see the newsletter or hear anything from any members on its existence. I am a suspicious as you are. If the whole entire membership was suffering a problem it would be very obvious. Select few can be written off as an isolated problem and they can get by with that. Eyes are everywhere.
 
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