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Hello fellow saxers. Jump right to the 1st photo...

Today I was at my local Chicago Salvation Army store and lo and behold I found this whacked out Lyon & Healy tenor sax LAMP OMG! Lyon & Healy American Professional Chicago “Les” Kreiger model It seems to have a 4 digit serial # I can’t make out the first # it’s blocked by the lamp and case but it looks like it could be a “1” maybe a “7” but who knows at this point but 98% sure only 4 digits. It says low pitch and some very very fine script below that I can’t get close enough to read.

Many of you learned gentleladies and gentlemen know a ton from just looking at photos about vintage and unusual rare horns. I could look it up but first I thought it would be more fun to hear directly from you all if you care to comment. There are several photos of the horn for examination.

Can anyone tell me about this horn? Was it made by L&H in Chicago before the fire? or is it a stencil from the early 1900's? Is everything there? (I play clarinet recently trying out saxophones so not sure just looking at it).

I might try to refurb it myself if it's not a rare valuable horn but if this is a rare horn worth something then I would probably save up and have it done by Sax Alley or PM Woodwind.

So I hope you enjoy this maybe one of a kind sax lamp just for the fun of it and I look forward to getting some comments on what when how where and who.

Thanks!

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It's a nice lamp, I'd leave it as is. There's probably a reason it was made into a lamp (e.g., it could be a "high pitch" instrument).
 

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I love it as it is - I’d leave it just like that.
 
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It's a low pitch. Yes I guess it does look like a TT think Buescher made it?

I might for laughs put a reed on it and blow see what happens. If nothing else I can take it to a new years eve party and wear the lamp shade. It is really cool looking...
 

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"Les" was probably the nickname of the Mr Kriegher who had his name engraved on it, rather than a 'model'. How tall is it from top to bottom? If more than 30" it's a Tenor, but if less than 30" it's a C-melody (which is even less desirable than if it's a Buescher Tenor stencil). Because even 'Buescher' TT's of the era are not rare or sought-after, this cheaper-made stencil (metal key touches instead of MOP) is even less so. But ok, let us know if it does actually play. Good score if it doesn't even need restoration!
Its Neck and Mouthpiece could have some dollar value if needed on a Neckless Buescher TT, but the cost of restoring this one would likely outweigh its value. Nice lamp! Cheers...
 

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Ah I thought it was small yes it's 27" I actually put a reed on it and it played the upper stack notes. I'll read up on these. I tend to think you're right even if I do it myself but it's tempting maybe $100 in pads and misc parts give it a bath shine it up got a gold wash bell in nice shape and for $135-50 I get a C Melody sax. I do like the lamp but just makes me queazy seeing a sax "hung up to dry" begging to be used... it sounded nice...
 

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How about a pic of the serial and the bottom of the bow. I think that I read that all of the American Professional saxes were Buescher TTs but I might not be remembering right. I have repadded a couple of saxes and the Lyon and Healy really kicked my butt trying to get all of the keys to seal and adjusted. It sounds pretty good now for a tenor that's over 105 years old. At some point someone had my L&H done before because I can tell that it has been lacquered, I am reasonably certain that it was originally bare brass. At any rate, I would have bought it. BTW there are a few C melody haters around so don't let them get you down.
 

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Yes that's a c-melody. Just take a look at the side F# tone hole... it has the c-mel placement.
Cool lamp though. And it was nice of the lamp maker to not ruin the sax but the case instead.
I don't believe that's even its case. It looks a lot newer style than that sax would have originally had.
 

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78809 would make it a 1921 which is probably about right. Since it like mine still have metal buttons my guess is that Buescher was still stenciling the series 1a for L&H even though they had moved on the series II for their own branding. Your finish looks from what I can see is C.

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I’d like to be there when you take it in an expensive repair shop just to see if they could keep a straight face when you tell them you want them to overhaul it.
I wouldn’t doubt some would take your money and do it.
 

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I don't believe that's even its case. It looks a lot newer style than that sax would have originally had.
It's definitely era-correct, if not original. Both my C-melodies, a 1923 Conn and a 1924 EBICo-built Wurlitzer, have that same case.
 
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