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I currently use a Selmer AS210 Alto but have been offered a fairly good deal, only $1800 for an Antigua ProOne Alto. I am wondering if it is significantly better than my Selmer to be worth purchasing. I played it and thought it sounded great, better than my Selmer, but I'm not sure how much of that was mental, expecting it to sound better.

The Antigua is one of the first 100, number 76 to be specific, and it even comes with certification. The guy selling it to me told me that this should increase its value with time. True or unlikely or false?

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I quite like Ponzol mouthpieces and if it felt good to you what are you waiting for. If future value is an issue well I don't subscribe to that as it's not stocks and bonds. You are going to use it aren't you? You may damage it,scratch it who knows what it will be worth in the future they may make 3,000,000 of them or 200
 

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I have a Cannonball Vinatge 192/200 Pete Christlieb alto. I do not expect to get more money for it if I ever decide to sell it. I think it's a marketing gimic to get the first batch of horns sold. The only way it would be worth more is if they become as valuable as Mark VI's--which is rather unlikely for any modern horn. (Too much hype to live up to) If it plays better than your AS210, get it, but don't be afraid to negotiate on price. Kessler music sells them for about $2500. Although I haven't played one personally yet, I hear they are very nice.
 

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If Peter Ponzol designed it there is some intrinsic value and you can be assured it will serve you well. However it will not be much of collectable for another 30 years or more when there are few to found at that time. Buy it because it does what you need it to do, not because you think it might make you rich in the future.

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I would say that is a fair good deal on the price which you are being offered. It may not increase value in couple years but surely within 5 to 6 years it will be a good deal, specially you have the certification to prove the origin.
 

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A used saxophone that increases in value after a few years is rare indeed, especially considering the deluge of inexpensive models from Asia - and I consider the Antiguas to be among the inexpensive Asian models. That is not a bad thing, just realistic. If they play well for the buyer, then they are good enough.

I checked Kessler's site and they listed that model at $2400 or so (+/-, don't recall the exact price). But to think that it would be worth MORE than that in six years is unlikely. Most price increases we see for older saxophones is because of inflation, not a real increase in value. DAVE
 

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Thanks..the future value was never really a consideration, I was just wondering how much bogus he was feeding me to get me to buy it.

I bought it today and definitely think it was worth it.

Funny thing is I got it for cheaper than my Selmer.

Should suit my purposes, I am going to college this year and will probably play in a campus band or something.
 

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Oh, I didn't notice the price above. That is quite the deal, definitely a good buy. Let us know how it holds up after you've spent more time with it.
 

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I wonder if they have more for sale at that price, it is a too good price to be true. Unless there is some dirt to dig up.
 

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I try to get in touch with the pro one maker to locate the # 1 of 100 Pro one alto or Tenor, but you know what they told me was really surprise to me, it seems that there is a great shortage of the Pro one Alto and Tenor, worldwide, the average waiting time is expected to be longer than 8 months.( unless you know someone)

According to their reply,what happen is that they want to keep the quality high and so they are runing a severe QC standard which in result of the mass delay on the production schdule. i don't knwo if this is true, who know, might be some sale's excuse on delay. But I think the part about the shortage in the market is true.

Anyway, that is why I say that deal you got is a great deal and who ever sell you at that pirce must be have a good reason to do so.

under demand and supply concept, that will be a great deal in short time.
 

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I'm proud to say that i owned the 91st Pro-One alto out of the initial 100. It plays well, sounds great and i love how easy it is to play up and down the horn. The thing is, the certificate i got with the instrument states that this is the 43 of the first 100 while the engraving on the back of the horn says it's the 91st. It's confusing to me but i think maybe it's the stamping error on the cert, anyway it doesn't matter much to me as i still have Peter Ponzol's signature in the cert with me. :)
 

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HongLJ: I'm happy that you are happy with your saxophone. But if you've never seen replacement disc-brake pads made out of pressed sawdust, then you probably can't appreciate my skepticism for claims such as you've just described (the mis-matched numbering of your saxophone and accompanying "certificate"). That stamping on your horn compared to the enclosed "certificate" allegedly signed by someone of note makes me think that you could probably buy a cup of coffee with the certificate IF you added $2.50. The world is filled with fakes and cheaply-made products marketed with lies. Even the vaunted Selmer name has been reduced to buying mass-produced Chinese products labelled with whatever name is paid for.

Again, I hope this horn serves your needs. DAVE
 

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I've had the horn for about a month now. It plays only slightly better than my selmer in normal registers, but anything lower than an e at the bottom of the staff or higher than a d above the staff it plays fantastically better. My selmer would get poor response, and still does when I play on it occasionally, but the pro one plays great, way more control. Also, I've been practicing overtone series for several months now and i wasn't making much progress on the selmer (usually only getting to the third overtone on Bb B and C) but now I can get to the fourth overtone on Bb B C C# and D. Seems like it comes easier on the pro one. Hoping I can play altissimo soon
 

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Maybe, you can not really tell about this kind of things.

Maybe someone can sell some Pro one for 2 dollars online, it will be really cool.

I am sure I will take that deal
 
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