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Antigua 586LQ on the way.....NOT!

Well I guess I should revise this thread because Fedex was a no show saturday and I will not be getting an AW soprano. Won't be home next week to recieve it so it will have to go back to Dave. However I am going to order a Yanagisawa S901 which is what I really wanted anyway. The only bad thing about that is that Dave Kessler told me before I ordered the AW that he would have to order a Yanagisawa soprano because he did not have any S901 models in stock. So I will guess I will be getting a Yana S901.


Well I ordered the Antigua 586LQ and it was shipped today and should get it saturday Fedex home delivery. I don't really know what to expect but I hope I like it, otherwise, I will have to get the Yanagisawa S901. One thing puzzles me though. I was told the only difference between the 586 and 590 are the high G key but the 586 description states:Modified Computer Copy of the S991. Dual Necks, range to high F#. Deluxe engraving. Plastic case with a 4C mouthpiece.

The 590 description states:Dual neck soprano. Range to high G, lacquer finish, engraved bell, professional model Ribbed body construction with case and mouthpiece.
Computer Copy of a Yanagisawa S991 Soprano! This is the BEST Taiwanese saxophone we have ever seen!

So what is meant by "modified"? The 590 doesn't mention that. The 590 states professional model ribbed body construction but the 586 doesn't mention ribbed body constrution. And the 590 states best Taiwanese sax we have ever seen but does not mention this about the 586. I'm like a lawyer so I have to parse everything. Anyway is the only difference really just the high G key. Does the 586 have ribbed body construction ect.?
 

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Antigua are generally very good although when I bought my 590 black lacquer there were a lot of problems with it and unfortunately since this was my first experience with a soprano I blamed myself. I now have fixed up the Antigua sop but am currently very pleased with my yss-475(Yamaha intermediate) as it playing amazing in tune with my selmer super session H.

This horns are not always as consistent as they should be.

stefane
 

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stu the sax player said:
Antigua are generally very good although when I bought my 590 black lacquer there were a lot of problems with it and unfortunately since this was my first experience with a soprano I blamed myself. I now have fixed up the Antigua sop but am currently very pleased with my yss-475(Yamaha intermediate) as it playing amazing in tune with my selmer super session H.

This horns are not always as consistent as they should be.

stefane
Well I have a 3 day trial period and the first sign of trouble it's going back no matter how minor. I'm really going to examine it very very carfully. May even take to a tech and let him examine it. I would rather spend $2000 on a good instrument that I can trust than $900 on one that is not playable. I know it's not going to sound quite as good as a Yana but it better be dam close.
 

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Don't make assumptions about how the Antigua sounds until you've played a few, side-by-side with the Yanagisawas. I have done so and when the Antigua is well set-up (like mine is - by Kessler), I like the sound of the Antigua better than my Yanagisawa S992. I would wait until you get into the Antigua . . . and don't bank on anything written here until you experience it. Good luck. DAVE
 

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sinebar, you may already be aware of this - if so, you can certainly disregard this post. In case you're not aware of it, Dave Dolson is one of the few players on this forum whose main instrument is soprano. Lots of folks own them and talk about them, but they primarily play alto or tenor. Dave also has a broad range of experience with soprano makes and models - both new and vintage - and is at a point in his life that he can afford to play any soprano he wants to play. And his experience is not limited to a 5-minute tryout at the music store - he has owned more different sopranos than most people have played.

This isn't a call to disregard any other posters or to idolize Dave - I just thought you needed to be aware of the guy's experience level with sopranos. I followed Dave's lead and bought a 590 from Dave Kessler several years ago and was thoroughly pleased with what I got. I played it for several years before selling it for about 80% of what I had in it and buying a True Tone. I made that switch because the LH table was easier for me to reach on the True Tone. I would have made the same switch had I bought the Yani.
 

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sinebar, you may already be aware of this - if so, you can certainly disregard this post. In case you're not aware of it, Dave Dolson is one of the few players on this forum whose main instrument is soprano. Lots of folks own them and talk about them, but they primarily play alto or tenor. Dave also has a broad range of experience with soprano makes and models - both new and vintage - and is at a point in his life that he can afford to play any soprano he wants to play. And his experience is not limited to a 5-minute tryout at the music store - he has owned more different sopranos than most people have played.

This isn't a call to disregard any other posters or to idolize Dave - I just thought you needed to be aware of the guy's experience level with sopranos. I followed Dave's lead and bought a 590 from Dave Kessler several years ago and was thoroughly pleased with what I got. I played it for several years before selling it for about 80% of what I had in it and buying a True Tone. I made that switch because the LH table was easier for me to reach on the True Tone. I would have made the same switch had I bought the Yani.
Oh I have no doubt that Dave is a true authority. Everytime I read a post on sotw I look to see if Dave Dalson, among a few others, has offered any words of wisdom. I take his advice seriously. But I tend to be very picky and I'm a suspicious person by nature so I guess I will just have to see for myself saturday when the horn arrives. My two concerns are that the horn is solid and the tone is good. If I don't like it it really won't be that big a deal. I'll just send it back and order the Yanagisawa.
 

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Is the 4C mouthpiece decent enough to show the Antigua 586LQ tonal qualities?
I was told by Dave Kessler that the 4C was no good. In fact he told me that I would hate the 586LQ with that mouthpiece. He recomended the SOPRANO PROTONE MP. It's being shipped with my 586LQ.
 

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So what is meant by "modified"? The 590 doesn't mention that. The 590 states professional model ribbed body construction but the 586 doesn't mention ribbed body constrution. And the 590 states best Taiwanese sax we have ever seen but does not mention this about the 586. I'm like a lawyer so I have to parse everything. Anyway is the only difference really just the high G key. Does the 586 have ribbed body construction ect.?
Yes, I think the "modification" of the 991 design for the 586 is indeed removal of the high G key.
 

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When I first got my 590, I preferred the 4C to the ProTone. It's a decent mouthpiece - it's just a fairly closed tip. It's not really that bad in that it helped me gain a better pitch control than had I started on a wider tip.
 
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