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That was painful to read. I think I need to go lie down.
 

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So if I want a complex jazz sound I need to get a silverplated horn and strip it right? I gonna ask my tech about this...
 

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I love all of the scientific evidence he presents. Very convincing. [rolleyes]
Music isn't a science, it's an art. At least it was before teh innertoobz got hold of it. ;)

I joke, but traditionally, musical knowledge works on the master/apprentice model. You believe cats who have been around because they have been around. Indeed, as long as such a cat is your teacher, you might never come to question hi/r knowledge at all.
 

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I read that article this morning attached to an advertising e-mail from WW&BW. Suffice to say I disagree. DAVE
 

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Music isn't a science, it's an art. At least it was before teh innertoobz got hold of it. ;)

I joke, but traditionally, musical knowledge works on the master/apprentice model. You believe cats who have been around because they have been around. Indeed, as long as such a cat is your teacher, you might never come to question hi/r knowledge at all.
Right.

If these teachers did any research at all, they would find that Adolphe Sax was very meticulous with the patented invention of the saxophone. It is a machine which took a great deal of science to invent.

Science was & is part of our musical world.

Oh well, I guess we are the lucky ones b/c we know better. :mrgreen:
 

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I read that article this morning attached to an advertising e-mail from WW&BW. Suffice to say I disagree. DAVE
+2!

Also Greg (in my opinion) is much more a "marketer" than anything else, so you've got to consider the source.

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Well, maybe I just need better ears to hear the difference.
 

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Well now I know when someone has a problem with altissimo, I need to check and see if their horn is gold plated...

The author has been on this site. He's a Guardala victim that opened a web page to shed light on the scam(s).
 

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I am really surprised that GV would come to that conclusion being the incredible player that he is. I am sooooo glad I got an un-lacquered horn since I play jazz.:twisted:

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Greg's into the cryo stuff, too.

He's definitely not a scientist, and much of his art is faith-based, but is one heck of a player.

If everything we did was based on Master/Apprentice, and if we never questioned the master, there's a lot of technology that wouldn't exist--including saxophones.

It amazes me that even though we play one of the few acoustic instruments that was truly 'invented' rather than 'developed', we constantly want to believe in some sort of mythology.
 

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I have a mostly unlacquered alto---from me rubbing the lacquer off in the practice room woodshedding. I'm only sorry it didn't make me as good as Greg.
 

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"I felt like the all silver sax was too bright for me"

Close your eyes then! ;)
 

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No scientific evidence here!

However, I have two essentially identical old Conn saxes, one gold plated and the other silver plated, both in fine condition. The silver one is definitely a brighter sounding instrument than the darker sounding gold plated instrument. The silver one is my preference.
 

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Right.

If these teachers did any research at all, they would find that Adolphe Sax was very meticulous with the patented invention of the saxophone. It is a machine which took a great deal of science to invent.

Science was & is part of our musical world.

Oh well, I guess we are the lucky ones b/c we know better. :mrgreen:
I bet his horns don't sound too good. Correct me if I am wrong.
 

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No scientific evidence here!

However, I have two essentially identical old Conn saxes, one gold plated and the other silver plated, both in fine condition. The silver one is definitely a brighter sounding instrument than the darker sounding gold plated instrument. The silver one is my preference.
Did you ever switch necks? Are the resonators the same ? Any dents anywhere? Same year serial number?
 
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