Sax on the Web Forum banner
1 - 20 of 49 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
1,835 Posts
Everybody else seems to be making a mouthpiece, why not Alexander. It looks no worse and even better than a lot of other current offerings.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Member
Joined
·
14,442 Posts
Everybody else seems to be making a mouthpiece, why not Alexander. It looks no worse and even better than a lot of other current offerings.
Lets draw a distinction here. It seems everyone is selling a mouthpiece...not actually making them. The field of craftsmen,especially competent ones is quite small.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
2,979 Posts
From all account this is a decent piece. I think the design is more than attractive. Does it matter who made it as long as the stock is quality and the build is without flaws? We all know Selmer outsource lots of their parts. I would like to try one but none in my City at present.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Coffee Guru
Joined
·
43,582 Posts
Alexander has Marca make their reeds, still, Marca are different from Alexander because they are designed in a different way

A mouthpiece is defined by its design and if Alexander has a different design made by anyone especially for them, then it is their mouthpiece.

Whether this warrants the asking price or not, it is a different matter. £429 is a LOT of money!

We all know Selmer outsource lots of their parts...
And they certainly make their mouthpieces themselves, beginning to the end ( watch this video)

Actually we don't know that they outsource anything (unless you have some source that can prove this) and this may only be true of the Seles series and even for that there are serious doubts about whether and where " outsource" would happen ( this may appear the rationale of producing a Selmer horn not branded Selmer but Seles)

My paperwork from Conn-Selmer shows that an S80 C* mouthpiece is included.

Also, I have spoken at length with people at the factory and they are NOT indicating that keywork is being outsourced to other countries.
I just spoke with someone from Selmer the other day, and had this exact question, and from what she said "Everything on the horn is made in France, but the keywork is outsourced within France".
I don't know if they buy screws and rods but if anything that's pretty much it, by watching videos (both independent and corporate ) it appears that they produce everything or almost everything in house.

Maybe screws and rods and certainly pads, aren't made there but everything else, does.


 

· Registered
Joined
·
1,835 Posts
Lets draw a distinction here. It seems everyone is selling a mouthpiece...not actually making them. The field of craftsmen,especially competent ones is quite small.
Point taken and it's really what I meant.
 

· Forum Contributor 2014-2015
Joined
·
1,773 Posts
Lets draw a distinction here. It seems everyone is selling a mouthpiece...not actually making them. The field of craftsmen,especially competent ones is quite small.
Phil has always been an outstanding craftsman, and he is also full of wisdom. I completely agree with his statement.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Member
Joined
·
14,442 Posts
Same to you Ben...and I dont doubt it is a reasonable or good piece...given its price tag it immediately claims a lot to live up to.

As for its appearance, i find the design of the shan intersting and as mojo suggests, it will stand out when given away to famous endorsers
 

· Registered
Shmacks
Joined
·
471 Posts
I’m weary of spending so much on the first run of a production piece. Everyone will swear on their mother about this piece until the Alexander Superia II comes out! Then I’ll get to experience this mouthpiece without the immediate regret of blowing a fortune. Even then I will paid too much for it and subsequent versions.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Coffee Guru
Joined
·
43,582 Posts
. Even then I will paid too much for it and subsequent versions.
But wait, I am sure that at some point someone will pay someone else to " pefect" a, Alexander superial 1 tenor , well 5 axis CNC made and then hand " perfect" mouthpiece already...

How much more perfect could it be?

"...The same profile as vintage soloist...but with very thin rails...." " older horns and new horns are allowed to speak freely ..."
 

· Registered
Shmacks
Joined
·
471 Posts
How much more perfect could it be?
My point exactly. You can take a cheap blank to a refacer you have a relationship with and be sure it's at least close to what you want rather than read a bunch of reviews and endorsements from guys who sound good on anything. I know not everyone has this option, but nothing's worse than putting a $500+ mouthpiece in a drawer.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Coffee Guru
Joined
·
43,582 Posts
unfortunately many people and shops in the business have made the evaluation that there is more money to be made (with a smaller investment) in selling mouthpieces , ligatures, necks, Sound accessories, reeds than there is in actually selling saxophones.
Also there is more money to be made with premium luxury ( I am reluctant to call this segment " high end” ) products than cheaper things.

Within each of these sectors the luxury line has grown exponentially while sales are now spread among many makers.

How many brands of mouthpieces can we count now? How many neck makers are there now?

It is also very interesting how some markets seem to be way more “ sensitive” to this trend than others.
 

· Distinguished SOTW Coffee Guru
Joined
·
43,582 Posts
yes, theo wanne too, still, there is a lot more money to be made with accessories, methinks, and the more luxurious the better, because stuff for rich is bought by people with and people without so much money.
 
1 - 20 of 49 Posts
Top