[area51recording]

 

[Pete Thomas]

It's whatever you find works for you. If you don't expand the abdomen out then the you can compensate for the lung capacity you might lose by instead using the top part of the lungs.

But I prefer to think of a more full (three part) yoga breath low - middle top. But whatever works is all good.

 

[area51recording]

It's whatever you find works for you. If you don't expand the abdomen out then the you can compensate for the lung capacity you might lose by instead using the top part of the lungs.

But I prefer to think of a more full (three part) yoga breath low - middle top. But whatever works is all good.

One thing I notice with this is that I get a very good sensation of the lower back expanding....I don't know, I might fool with it for a while....it's not like I have anything ELSE going on right now, that's for sure ;-)

 

[1saxman]

Near as I can tell, its what I have always done. Maybe we erred when calling it the diaphragm, IDK, but its playing/singing 'from the gut'. Its how you play with a projecting tone, which was very important in the late '50s when I started. it remained important and still is today, regardless of PA systems. What happens is, if you are giving the mic a powerful signal, the sound man can turn it down a little compared to a weak player with a small sound - this has the benefit of reducing the ambient noise being picked up by the mic. At the same time, you feel like you are not being blown away by the brass in the section plus the guitar and other instruments. Anyway, that's what I do for what its worth. BTW, the young lady in the video had a beautiful vibrato!

 

[lostcircuits]

All I know from my days as marine biologist and doing a lot of snorkling is that without expanding my abdominal region, a.k.a. belly breathing I lost a lot of lung capacity. But she is right in that if you just let things sag, you don't gain much and you lose control. It is the combination of all different areas of expansion that gives you the max lung capacity.

 

[chilehed]

I think she's mistaken. I get close to half of my lung capacity by allowing my belly to distend in the first phase of inhalation, before there's any expansion of my rib cage. Been breathing that way since my first sensei taught it to me in Jr. High, and absolutely it greatly (and immediately) improved my free-diving capability.

 

[area51recording]

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[AddictedToSax]

I listened to the first 1:35 and had to quit because nothing she says is correct. The diaphragm isn't a membrane, it is a muscle. It is involved in breathing. The abdominal muscles in contrast don't have anything to do with inspiration, the taking in of air. They only help in expelling spent air. I could go on but everything she says in the first minute and a half is scientifically wrong.

Belly breathing, what they teach in yoga, is the act of using the diaphragm muscle to push the abdominal organs down and to create a partial vacuum in the chest cavity that draws air into the lungs.

She should take a freshman human physiology class if she's going to discuss breathing in a true and honest way. What a waste of time.

 

[area51recording]

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[AddictedToSax]

Sure she can play but she’s pretending to understand human physiology and she doesn’t.

 

[area51recording]

Ok. Cool. Just thought it was an interesting view. Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

 

[milandro]

in fact after OP having edited all the posts, this entire thread makes now no sense at all

 

[Pete Thomas]

in fact after OP having edited all the posts, this entire thread makes now no sense at all

I will attempt to fix that and contact OP to try to get the all the edits undone (mods cannot do that)

I can restore the link in OP and edit post 3 with text from the notification I got. Will do that later...

I think this is one of the oldest rules in the book:

Editing of posts should only be carried to to correct typos or to clarify a point. You may not edit posts to remove your post history. It is especially bad to edit the contents of the first post in a thread which results in making a complete nonsense of the thread. This includes text, linked images and video media.

 

[Llareggub]

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Belly breathing, what they teach in yoga, is the act of using the diaphragm muscle to push the abdominal organs down

Exactly , down , and not out as many people think !! Well said sir !