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I'm in the market for a new tenor, so I go to one of the local music stores and ask to see some used saxes. The guy (owner) comes out with four or five saxes, and starts telling me about each sax. He opens on and the tag says 10M for only $1500? I pick up the horn and give it a once over, and being the skeptical person that I am, I look at the S/N and it is N 59xxx and just under that its says Mexico. I'm no Conn expert, but I have heard to stay away from all MexiConns. My question is were 10Ms made in Mexico, and if so, whay are the S/N so off. Another thing about this horn is that it had an underslung neck. Could this be the neck off of an older Conn, or did they make those that way.
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Some of the 10M's have underslung necks. I knew one guy with one and it was a burnin horn (owned by Bert Wilson). I think they made some of them in Mexico in the end.

Did you play it?
 

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I didn't have my MP with me, so I didn't get a chance, but I'm doing that tomorrow.
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I've never heard of a 1970 Conn (which the N serial tells us) with an underslung neck. It may be a replacement neck from an older Conn or elsewhere.

I don't believe all the stuff about staying away from Mexiconns (I bought my Mexiconn 1970 tenor in 2004 and it's fine). But I would tread carefully, as one has to find a replacement neck that will be in tune with the instrument and of course fit it properly. In this case, it may be best to take a raincheck on it.
 

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It's unlikely that it is a replacement neck, as the underslung necks were double socket, where as all other Conn necks such as one might find on the standard, dreaded 14M/16M "Director" or "Shooting Star" models that are usually associated with Nogales AZ/Mexico are single socket. Quite an operation is needed to adapt one to the other, both the neck, tenon, and the octave mechanism.

I have never seen a Mexican made 10M, nor do most Conn historians believe this model was ever made outside of Elkhart. Are you certain of this?
 

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It's unlikely that it is a replacement neck, as the underslung necks were double socket, where as all other Conn necks such as one might find on the standard, dreaded 14M/16M "Director" or "Shooting Star" models that are usually associated with Nogales AZ/Mexico are single socket. Quite an operation is needed to adapt one to the other, both the neck, tenon, and the octave mechanism.

I have never seen a Mexican made 10M, nor do most Conn historians believe this model was ever made outside of Elkhart. Are you certain of this?
I think we'd need to see photos or he gets a Conn expert to check it out in person. I still say leave it and look for a different horn. That's my tuppence worth.
 

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I have to confess that I was attempting to be a bit diplomatic in asking the rhetorical question "are you certain of this?", rather than declaring anyone wrong.

Although there are reports of a few spare parts Artist horns being assembled in Nogales C.1970/71 after the Elkhart facility closed, I am definitely of the opinion that Artist model production remained in Elkhart until the end.

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saxismyaxe said:
I have to confess that I was attempting to be a bit diplomatic in asking the rhetorical question "are you certain of this?", rather than declaring anyone wrong.

Although there are reports of a few spare parts Artist horns being assembled in Nogales C.1970/71 after the Elkhart facility closed, I am definitely of the opinion that Artist model production remained in Elkhart until the end.

Cheers.
What I find interesting is that, in all of my interests, be it saxophone or my other love, film music, things that only happened, say in the case of the N Conns, 1970, which is 'only' thirty-seven years ago, the information isn't readily available. Luckily we have great Forum people like Saxismyaxe to 'fill in the gaps'.
 
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