[Terence Domio]

I was thinking, what if Selmer decided to make a reference 75 "in the spirit of the mark VII?" How would it do in the market? What improvements would they make? Would it have that pinky cluster? I've been really interested in mark VII's lately lol.

 

[JackLi]

just buy a VII they're usually way cheaper than a VI

 

[Terence Domio]

just but a VII they're usually way cheaper than a VI

I know that. I just find the premise of the reference horns interesting. Perhaps selmer could make an improved VII

 

[Woosax]

I would much prefer a Reference 48 after the SBA over a Reference 75.

 

[ericdano]

Improve on a Mark VII? The horns that everyone says are crap? I'm sure you'd like the auto industry to improve on the Plymouth Scamp or give Fiat another chance to improve on the Multipla?

Now, don't get me wrong, I've played on a good Mark VII alto. I'm sure there are good horns that are Mark VIIs.....but it seems to be a waste to try a "reference" version of it. No one would care or buy it.

In fact, I think Selmer ought to SIMPLIFY its product lines. They have the Series III, Reference, Prelude, La Voix, Series III model 52, Selmer Bundy, Series III model 62 and probably more that I am forgetting that they are currently producing.

 

[Mike F]

In fact, I think Selmer ought to SIMPLIFY its product lines. They have the Series III, Reference, Prelude, La Voix, Series III model 52, Selmer Bundy, Series III model 62 and probably more that I am forgetting that they are currently producing.

You're confusing two different companys, Selmer Paris, and Selmer USA. It's not difficult to find out the facts before you post on the internet. Just use the internet!

 

[Noj the Terrible]

You would have a horn like the Reference 36. When I played one back to back with my MK VII they were so close, the biggest difference was the left pinky cluster. The difference wasn't worth the $$$$. Just my experience and opinion.

 

[Benny]

I know that. I just find the premise of the reference horns interesting. Perhaps selmer could make an improved VII

They did.....it's called the SA80.

 

[Terence Domio]

They did.....it's called the SA80.

I think the SA80 is a completely different beast from the VII

I am digging the idea of a reference 48 though

 

[dexdex]

In software industry, we would rather propose an upgrade: replace the VII original (and lame, at least on tenor) neck by a Ref54, like I did. Should I call it MkVII-54, RefVII-54, or what ?

 

[Thomas]

You would have a horn like the Reference 36. When I played one back to back with my MK VII they were so close, the biggest difference was the left pinky cluster. Just my experience and opinion.

Interesting that you should say this. I thought practically the same thing. To me the Ref 36, that I owned for 6 months(couldn't wait to dump it) was a slightly modified MK VII without the guts and tonal warmth and flexibility of a real VII tenor. I had a MK VII tenor for 32 years in addition to my MK VI tenors.

 

[Phil1]

I think the SA80 is a completely different beast from the VII

I am digging the idea of a reference 48 though

I'm looking forward to the Reference 86.

 

[Terence Domio]

I think I would like to get my hands on a VII. very underrated horns.

 

[Mike F]

I'm looking forward to the Reference 86.

Ha! You may have to wait a very long time! :lol:

Come to think of it though, you can still buy them new, although they've changed somewhat since then.

 

[Phil1]

Ha! You may have to wait a very long time! :lol:

Come to think of it though, you can still buy them new, although they've changed somewhat since then.

Yeah I've got one of those.