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2. I saw one picture on eBay of a Revelation engraved sax, but I can't find it anymore. I should probably start saving some screenshots for research files...
I'm not sure if the Revelation and Wiedoeft models exactly became the Collegiate line. There are parallel catalogs for Collegiate and Revelation that do not reference each other, running from 1931 up to at least 1936. In 1932, the literature has a new "Professional" model as the top of the Revelation line (click on 30 thru 39 here for 1932 saxes). This is the first illustrations I found of same side bell keys, and a removable clothing guard. When they go from names to numbers, the 210 (and later 211) C-Melody is still in the lineup through 1935. There are three models of trombones, btw (since you have one of them) in the same 1932 booklet: Professional, Revelation, and Symphony. By '37 they merged the catalogs, but still separate the entries for Collegiate from other Holton brands.
3. Thank you for the working copy of LaPorte's Holton list. The link in most of the threads here is broken. I used the old thread and the SN list at Saxophone.org, which is pretty close to it.
4. No joy on the original pads; it came with tan rivets. There will be some new pads in the next week or two, though. I wanted to wait until early next year and do the historically correct overhaul with reso-less plain white pads, but the current ones have started to disintegrate since I have been playing on them. One split and fell out yesterday while I was working on scales, so I will have to settle for good ASAP, perfect later. I measured the errant pad and emailed MM for some samples.
The pad is kind of odd (maybe? I'm used to fixing clarinets, so maybe this is normal for old sax pads? eh?). There isn't any backing, just a cardboard ring around the outer edge, and a tiny oval sticker "63". The felt is exposed in the middle, and has a small area of lumpy shellac smudged on it. The cup is almost clean where it came off, so there isn't part of the pad or any thing in there.
5. I really like the Perfected mouthpiece. My horn isn't stuffy or dull-sounding at all with it. I'm hoping to get another one as a backup, since the one I've got has some little hairline cracks. Perfecteds have been seen on at least 3 horns on Goodwill this month, plus several on eBay. They were also branded as Harwood, Henton, and others, so if I keep watching, I should be able to get a spare. I saw some other good looking mouthpieces I might like to have, too, that are listed or sold recently (a Chedeville C (?!)). This is a dangerous hobby!
2) I would love to see that picture. Hope it includes the whole sax.
My comment was more in regards to the use of the name. Not just a name change on a given product. Yes you are correct it that regard.
Sax.org has a great collection of ephemera. I'll have to go back and look again. Most of their catalogs would not open for me until recently.
Thanks for the link & noted information.
Is your next planed purchase a #666 ?
3) you're welcome. That man put a ton of time and research into that list. Trust it for accuracy. Most on the net go off the rails mid '20's.
See post #858 https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?70892-Holton-Saxophone-Serial-number-registry/page43
4) when you shake a haunted sax parts have a tendency of running away. Were you playing "Dust In The Wind"? Old Pads no likey that song!,
Measure the pad thickness. You'll need that information later. #63 I'm guessing is a bin or part number for assembly line stock. Backed with the cardboard doughnut? That's interesting.
Orginal pad it could be.
Do some more research. Not all were white. Seems back in the day conservative use of shellac was common.
See a single stitch one here. Post #2 & 3 https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?352138-Rudy-Wiedoeft-alto-1930-cleaning-pictures
Somewhere on that thread is a picture of my original MP too.
Dangerous hobby! I went to the flea market last week to dump some stuff out of the garage. Have a friend that's a vendor I sold pile to. On the way back to the car I stumbled across the trombone. 50 yards away I could see the emblem on the case. It's Holton Bones were calling me. It's October.
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