i've noticed a LOT of love for these on here and i can see why. just wondering as i will likely be purchasing a 2 screw lig soonish which are you favourites and why? the ones i've looked at are selmer, ishimori, marc jean and thats about it...
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It may depend on your mouthpiece. On my RPC I use the basic one that came with it. No brand, just USA stamped on it. These cost about £4 and are really very good.
Various other brands are Zinner and Rico
Selmer and Vandoren are also good, but cost a lot more.
Various other brands are Zinner and Rico
Selmer and Vandoren are also good, but cost a lot more.
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On my tenor STM, I use a Rico HTS2, with the 2 screws on top. Why ?
_ as the screws are up there, the lig doesn't destroy the reed. This is key when using synthetics which last long
_ tightening the screw doesn't influence the reed position, like the original Link tends to do
_ they are not too expensive and look neat
The slanted cap which cannot stand upright is ridiculous. Rico was smoking grass (cane ?) on that day....
AFAIK, Jody Jazz is shipping this model with their mps.
_ as the screws are up there, the lig doesn't destroy the reed. This is key when using synthetics which last long
_ tightening the screw doesn't influence the reed position, like the original Link tends to do
_ they are not too expensive and look neat
The slanted cap which cannot stand upright is ridiculous. Rico was smoking grass (cane ?) on that day....
AFAIK, Jody Jazz is shipping this model with their mps.
I'm pretty sure this is it:
http://www.amazon.com/American-Plating-Tenor-Gold-Ligature/dp/B002Q0WTCY
You can get them also in nickel. I will be stocking these soon.
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some of the standard 2 scew ligs that come with pieces in the box are not so well made, the screws don't really screw or get stuck.
But a well made one simply does the job it's supposed to do. It will last for years AND it won't cost you an arm and a leg
But a well made one simply does the job it's supposed to do. It will last for years AND it won't cost you an arm and a leg
I just got a Marc Jean, and it comes into the more expensive category, but I prefer it to Selmer or Vandoren. I'm just trying it on a session and will probably switch to this in favour of my previous Rovner Evo (Star).
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Selmer, Bonade (inverted and standard), Yanagisawa, in that order. DAVE
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If the lig fits well you shouldn't squash the reed. If the reed is getting distorted either you're tightening too much or the lig isn't a good fit.
I find the standard traditional ligatures work fine and I've not obtained a major advantage spending lots of money on an alternative. Some ligatures are getting as expensive or more so than mouthpieces. For me the standard ligs are the best value and I only bother with somethign else if the standard one doesn't fit.
For instance, with metal Vandoren V16 pieces the only ligs I've found to fit are a Rovner and the very expensive Vandoren Optimum. There should be a BG version that fits but they weren't in stock last I checked.
I find the standard traditional ligatures work fine and I've not obtained a major advantage spending lots of money on an alternative. Some ligatures are getting as expensive or more so than mouthpieces. For me the standard ligs are the best value and I only bother with somethign else if the standard one doesn't fit.
For instance, with metal Vandoren V16 pieces the only ligs I've found to fit are a Rovner and the very expensive Vandoren Optimum. There should be a BG version that fits but they weren't in stock last I checked.
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Also my understanding.
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Those have always slipped for me on the RPC's I've ordered. Maybe I just need to scuff them up a bit, but they're generally relegated to my drawer of spares. Some of my favorite two-screws are bent up old ligatures I've picked up from past trades, or that came with vintage horns I've picked up in the past. Pre-scuffed, I guess.
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Another vote for Rico-H
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Very strange. The thing I really like about the 'USA' 2-screw ligs that came with my RPCs is that they don't slip at all, even if you don't tighten them way down. They conform perfectly to the mpc and seem to get a good grip. Also the screws work very smoothly, which is important.
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Well, the last two tenor ligatures I got with my RPC's I didn't seem to favor due to the slipping; at least in comparison to my other more worn two-screws. I do keep one on my spare rollover however, and would use it in a pinch.
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I agree with everything above. Plus,
- Unlike some "screws on top" ligs, it doesn't seem to scratch the top of the mouthpiece.
- I love the cap and never even considered the fact that it won't stand upright. That's not a feature I care about.
- The Rico H-lig doesn't seem to be as fragile as the original Harrsion H-lig.
- They are relatively inexpensive and look nice (deserves to be stated again)
- Most importantly, they hold the reed on the mouthpiece!
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Vandoren Masters for me. Its inverted and has a couple of embossed bars that make contact with the reed. Just seems to work right every time with no fussing about location on the reed, amount of pressure etc etc.
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I remove the lacquer from my "vintage" Selmer ligs for HR pieces - helps reduce the tendency to slip.
I also like the Francois Louis and Charles Bay ligs for HR mouthpieces.
For metal mouthpieces, I prefer the Selmer 404/402 ligatures.
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