[B Flat]

Just after an approximate value on a 37 Buescher Baritone.
Physical condition is very good, straight with only a couple minor dings.
Original Lacquer also in great shape.
Plays but needs a re-pad.
A nice looking horn with original case.

 

[Grumps]

Eight hundred bucks might be a good place to start. That's U.S. though.

 

[JayeLID]

That sounds right. Maybe a tad high, even....

Not sure if this is a split-bellkey one ? If so...be careful...have you playtested it ? The Bighorn Boosh splitbells tended to have some instability around the Low E and D. Only way to solve is to solder a piece of brass tube inside the body tube.

Matt Stohrer also confirms this. It's within a particular serial range of splitbell Booshes.

I just tend to avoid their splitbells altogether for that reason..

 

[B Flat]

Thank you both.
I was thinking close to that price myself.
Seller wants way way more because they got an insurance appraisal from a Local Music store.
When she first told me the price I thought maybe I had mistaken just which model it was.
I know that over here we generally have to pay a bit more for saxophones etc, but not nearly three times the above amount.

 

[paulwl]

I've only heard about the early True-Tone baris to high Eb having the instability issue. My 1935 split bell Aristocrat doesn't seem to have the problem. But reputation is everything, and it doesn't have to be true.

 

[JL]

I was thinking close to that price myself.
Seller wants way way more because they got an insurance appraisal from a Local Music store.
When she first told me the price I thought maybe I had mistaken just which model it was.
I know that over here we generally have to pay a bit more for saxophones etc, but not nearly three times the above amount.

A major consideration is the fact it needs a re-pad (and if it needs that, it may need a full overhaul), so that's going to add a considerable sum to the cost of the horn.

 

[B Flat]

A major consideration is the fact it needs a re-pad (and if it needs that, it may need a full overhaul), so that's going to add a considerable sum to the cost of the horn.

Absolutely!!
I think the seller has just gotten a little excited about the rubbish that the music store told them.
And they probably padded the appraisal out quite a bit as well.
I'll be giving this one a pass.

 

[bandmommy]

Insurance appraisals are always inflated. That way if you put them on your homeowners they can jack up the premium.

 

[Jerry K.]

Seems the prices you’re getting are are a little low based on the condition described. I would think $1000-$1200 more realistic. None of the horns that have sold on eBay for less, were even close to the condition of the one you’ve described. Finding a bari with good original lacquer, few or no dents and no solder or dent repairs isn’t that easy to come by with a vintage horn. Also factor in shipping and risks of severe damage (been there done that) with any horn that’s not local. What s the seller's asking price?

 

[Grumps]

What s the seller's asking price?

He said three times the value we gave him. And hey, I said the eight hundred was a starting point given that it at least needs new pads. Maybe a hundred or two more if the lacquer is in fact original and it's as pristine as stated... but we all know how that often goes. Still, in the U.S. vintage baritone saxophones keyed only down to low Bb are a hard sell unless they're Selmers or Conn NWII's.

 

[turf3]

He said three times the value we gave him. And hey, I said the eight hundred was a starting point given that it at least needs new pads. Maybe a hundred or two more if the lacquer is in fact original and it's as pristine as stated... but we all know how that often goes. Still, in the U.S. vintage baritone saxophones keyed only down to low Bb are a hard sell unless they're Selmers or Conn NWII's.

I'd say even Selmer low Bbs don't sell as well as Conns. But my suspicion is that the highest street value for Conn baritones would be 12Ms with BOTH rolled tone holes AND front high F key (only from about 1938 to 1946 or so).

 

[Jerry K.]

He said three times the value we gave him. And hey, I said the eight hundred was a starting point given that it at least needs new pads. Maybe a hundred or two more if the lacquer is in fact original and it's as pristine as stated... but we all know how that often goes. Still, in the U.S. vintage baritone saxophones keyed only down to low Bb are a hard sell unless they're Selmers or Conn NWII's.

Ok, missed that in B Flat's second post! Yes, $2400 US is way out of line for a horn needing an overhaul!