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1932 6M transitional alto body: Repairable or parts horn only?

I'm visiting my friend's moving sale and on a bottom shelf in the garage under a pile of keys and other random woodwind parts, I find a 6M transitional body (no neck) that appears to have either been in an unfortunate incident and/or someone started to part it out. Even though sax is not my instrument, I grabbed it, because I knew that the likelihood of someone (other than me) finding it who knew what they were looking at was slim and other wise it was sure to become a lamp, which I know you all love so much. ;)

Here's what's damaged:
Curve under the bell has some typical dents, but more significantly, has been slightly bent back towards the body of the horn so that there's a soft crease on the top of the curve. This has displaced the two LH bell keys and the two RH keys in the curve so that they do not align with the tone holes and the bottom brace of the bell key cage is loose. There is one other key (middles of the horn in the area where it is not fingered) with a bent arm and misalignment.

Missing:
Neck (which should have the micro-tuning feature based on the 249xxx serial number) - hard to find, I think.
The entire right hand E assembly
thumb rest
G-sharp table (the lever is there, looks like the table was removed or sheared off)

It's possible that I missed something, but I've been looking at it quite carefully and think this is the sum of deficiencies.

Good condition:
the engraved art deco bell with gold wash is pretty nice - there's a small bit of red brass showing on the left side. MoP buttons are very nice, lacquer is absent - seems like this should have the mostly satin finish though.

I'll likely sell it as is (not here b/c I don't have - and will probably never attain - 50 posts under my belt), but don't know how to present it/whether to bother with eBay or just take it to a local sax specialist (particularly if it is a parts horn only at this point).

Your thoughts? I'll try to post photos tomorrow.
 

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I also found a brass American Standard by King clarinet that actually appears to be complete except for the mouthpiece barrel - so that was kinda cool. My friend (who sings and plays guitar, but no wind instruments) picked these up from his friend (who was closing a repair shop) to make into lamps, but never got around to it. At first I thought the King was perhaps a sopranino sax (this warehouse sale may have involved beers...), but when I got home and looked at it more critically later, I realized it was a different woodwind entirely.

These were in a sad pile of student flute bits, a couple of wooden clarinet barrels, the bottom half of a bassoon, and a bunch of broken violin parts on the shelf above. Anyway, my friend consigned them to me to find a better owner and we will split whatever results.
 

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FIRST you DO have selling rights because you've been a member from before any rules were set.

https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?233420-Marketplace-Rules-as-of-12-14-2015

Marketplace Rules

1. Marketplace eligibility

Eligibility for both the for sale and want to buy sections are determined by:

a. If you were a member prior to June 16, 2013, you should have Marketplace Privileges regardless of your post count.


ANYWAY

well, frankly speaking, I don't think there is any point in trying to fix these things it is simply too expensive.

Selling these things will be difficult too.

Because, they come after all, from a repair shop, which, like most repair shops, collect this kind of things until they realize that maybe the horn to ever ft that particular part that you are keeping will never come through the door (of course the moment you sell it is when someone brings a horn which would need a bell). If they would have not been just " stand in the way" objects the repair shop wouldn't have given them to your friend in the first place but kept them.

Unless someone has a horn with the exact parts missing few people are going to be interested in a pile of metal and or wood.

The clarinet seems to be salvageable
 

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Thank you, both for the honest response and pointing out that I missed the grandfathering rule on sellers.

So maybe this one IS a lamp, lol. There's always an exception to the rules, (as above).

-mj
 

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MJ, although I'm slightly biased, I don't think making this into a lamp is a good idea. (and not just because I hate instrument lamps.)
It's still possible someone on here or elsewhere needs parts for a Transitional 6M, or that you find one somewhere that's too far gone to be anything but a parts horn.
(Also, do you know what brand the bassoon boot joint/bell was? They could also be worth saving/selling.)
edit: I'll also add, if you can find the correct barrel, that King should probably play decently.
 

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everything is possible and that’s why the repairer had this for years and years and gave it away when they closed down.

Anyway, here we have a fair share of technicians maybe some will be interested and transfer this pile from OP’s friend house to theirs laying in waiting for the chance to knock at their door
 

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Id be selling it unlsess I had a hankering to throw a lot of cash at a 6M I had never heard.

Some tech with a box of parts and the means may deal with it but if I were to take a guess you could get a working nice horn for what you would put in it.

Im not a tech. Some may chime in but these repairs plus a full overhaul sound pretty darned spendy to me.

Dont make a lamp.
 

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Use it for parts. With the damaged bow, missing keys, missing neck, too big of a job. Even if it was a good condition horn, it would only be worth about $1,200 in good playing condition. The neck would probably run $500 IF you could find one. Probably a $1,500+ repair job.
 

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Thank you everyone for sharing your expertise! Clearly it is a parts horn, which was what I suspected, once I realized that the bow was bent (not too long before I posted the original question). I'll list it for sale here at sotw sometime soon.
 
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