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Nice looking specimen and the Front F is nice to have (esp. for altissimo if that matters). The part about it being the last of the line is kinda BS. I've seen Buescher C Melodies for sale with up to 240,XXX serial numbers (1928-1929). If you're the seller, you might want to change that bit...

The ad is a couple months old...I'd think $500 would be a reasonable price for a very nice playing/excellent physical condition C Melody via craigslist.
 

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Last Buescher C mel I am aware of was, I think, 1937. It was marked Aristocrat but still had the needle springs and split keyed bell. I own one from 1930 and its an excellent instrument. They got small spoon shaped trill F# keys late in the 20s to match the other saxes, doing away with the big key with its cage that digs into your side when you play.
 

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Hey, it's all well and good for the very few actual C melody saxophone players out there. But if the OP is unfamiliar with these horns, we probably should couch any excitement in this regard and not sugarcoat our responses. It is not rare. It is not sought after. And if you're looking for an actual saxophone to play with others (and no, this is not an invitation to post oodles of C melody videos... I mean... get real here) this is not an instrument you should be purchasing for any amount. It is a relic from the past that has no real place in any music made today. The OP needs to know this.
 

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Hey, it's all well and good for the very few actual C melody saxophone players out there. But if the OP is unfamiliar with these horns, we probably should couch any excitement in this regard and not sugarcoat our responses. It is not rare. It is not sought after. And if you're looking for an actual saxophone to play with others (and no, this is not an invitation to post oodles of C melody videos... I mean... get real here) this is not an instrument you should be purchasing for any amount. It is a relic from the past that has no real place in any music make today. The OP needs to know this.
You are cracking me up! But you are right, if OP is looking for a Saxophone in the way most people think about them, the c-mel is not the right place to start. And they are not sought after either. If, on the other hand it would be an f-mezzo .... :evil:
 

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I am aware of the challenges of playing such an old instrument. I briefly had a chance to feel the action before I handed it over to my tech. It felt okay, possibly manageable, but by no means ideal. There aren't a lot of options if you want to play c melody. I found some Chinese instruments on e-bay which I'm curious about, but I'm wondering if they will have "the sound" of an old Buescher. I'm looking for more of a tenor sound, in a smaller horn with the added benefit of being keyed in C. I prefer a horn with a front F, and so far have only found a couple available for sale with this - this being one of them. There's no reason a c melody can't be as versatile as an alto or tenor, it plays the same notes.
 

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Oh no, now you've done it (long-running, ardently argued debate on this forum)! So you bought the horn already or just had your tech check it out pre-purchase?
Yea, I bought it. My tech said it looked like it was in good shape, which it appeared to be for the most part. I've got my fingers crossed in hopes it will turn out great.
 

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I am aware of the challenges of playing such an old instrument. I briefly had a chance to feel the action before I handed it over to my tech. It felt okay, possibly manageable, but by no means ideal. There aren't a lot of options if you want to play c melody. I found some Chinese instruments on e-bay which I'm curious about, but I'm wondering if they will have "the sound" of an old Buescher. I'm looking for more of a tenor sound, in a smaller horn with the added benefit of being keyed in C. I prefer a horn with a front F, and so far have only found a couple available for sale with this - this being one of them. There's no reason a c melody can't be as versatile as an alto or tenor, it plays the same notes. I don't know why the seller hasn't taken down the ad yet. This horn is sold. :)
OK, well if you are looking for a "Tenor Sound", you will NOT find that in a C-Melody. Because C-Melodys sound like C-Melodys. The tone is significantly different from either Tenor or Alto. There are harmonics absent from a C-mel, due to the odd design of its body and neck...its proportions resulted in a much 'tamer' tone which people often refer to as 'muffled' or 'lacking edge'.

So...as Grumps said...IF you are curious about C-mels and wish to own one, go for it. A Buescher is as good as any other C-mel. But it isn't about "the challenges of playing such an old instument". You will be ending up with a sax of unusual tonality. That is what Grumps was pointing out.

So if your intention is to get a "tenor tone, just keyed one step up"...a C-mel ain't gonna give you that.

So....it'd be a fair argument to say that if you have $500 floating around, you could just buy a vintage Tenor which will give you a Tenor tone and likely be different enough from whatever Tenor you may have now to be interesting and more useful in most playing contexts. Ditto an Alto. $500 can get you a used Either. $750 ? Something quite excellent in A or T.

So again...No...it will not have 'that vintage Buescher sound'....the sound which folks love about Buescher Altos, Tenors, Baris, and Sopranos...because it's a C-Mel. And their design robbed the horns of 'something', sonically. There is no argument to be made otherwise.

Tonality is determined by an instruments specifications. For sax...body tube, neck, bow dimensions; tonehole diameters, etc. The classic C-mel design (regardless of whether Conn, King, Boosh, Martin) is just an oddly proportioned saxophone. Thus its tonality follows that fact.
Some say this was intentional, to produce a 'softer' or 'quieter' sound appropriate for people's parlors and living rooms.
Others say, it was just sort of a mistake; something which, for ease of fabrication more than anything else, ended up being a sorta 'stretched alto' with a 'skinny tenor neck'.
Who knows which is right...or if neither are. The resulting horn is what it is.

Seller sure does a hecka job talking it up.

But, as noted - if you are AIMING for a C-mel because you want that 'c-mel experience', then any of the old Big 4 ones will do....add Holton, too. Theirs were as good as anyone else's.
 

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Very sound reasoning. But that horn is way overpriced. If you can't talk him down to $500 or less, you should keep looking. Mine was in better shape than yours but only cost $250. It was in playing condition and didn't need any work.

As others have said, if you ever want to play in a reading band with other saxes, C-mel won't work. And even if you play in some other band by ear, they don't project very much and don't really sound like a tenor, no matter how hard you try. If you only play alone at home unaccompanied, then it doesn't matter what key the horn is in. May as well just get a tenor in that case. This is coming from a guy who loves his own C-mel but also has tenor, alto and others for practical reasons. If I could only afford to get one horn, it would not be a C-mel, but an alto or tenor.
 

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OK, well if you are looking for a "Tenor Sound", you will NOT find that in a C-Melody. Because C-Melodys sound like C-Melodys. The tone is significantly different from either Tenor or Alto. There are harmonics absent from a C-mel, due to the odd design of its body and neck...its proportions resulted in a much 'tamer' tone which people often refer to as 'muffled' or 'lacking edge'.
Well said. The C Melody saxophone is the woodwind version of a viola. A viola sounds nothing like a violin.
 
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