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I just want to take a moment to thank all of you who showed up to try our mouthpieces at the show.
It was a huge success for both the 10MFAN and Falcon Woodwinds companies.
Lots of dealers taking on both companies as a package deal.
Very excited about this.
Thanks for the update Mark. Do you know if there is any appearance difference between Falcon Florida and Falcon DR? I mean if Eric added something to the engraving, ring styles, etc. Based on the reply I saw from Eric, DR apparently has slightly bigger chamber but I thought I check if there is something visually more distinguishable. Thanks.
 

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Hi, hope you are well. Yes of course the outside is different because the double rings had the two rings on the shank next to each other. I will get up some pictures in a moment. Yes, those had bigger chambers.
 

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Double Ring copy:



Here is Doug Webb on the DOUBLE RING piece at the Namm show:

Here is Doug on the FLORIDA piece:
 

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Hi, hope you are well. Yes of course the outside is different because the double rings had the two rings on the shank next to each other. I will get up some pictures in a moment. Yes, those had bigger chambers.
Thanks Mark. What do you think about differences between FW Florida and Double Ring models regarding tone or any other aspects?
 

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The DR will be warmer without as much bark available as the Florida.

The 2 clips above should really give everyone a great representation of what these 2 models can do, and how they differ from one another.
 

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The DR will be warmer without as much bark available as the Florida.

The 2 clips above should really give everyone a great representation of what these 2 models can do, and how they differ from one another.
Thanks Mark. You are right. The two clips give a good idea of the differences. I ordered Florida but now I'm thinking I would perhaps like the warmer version (the double ring version). Although if someone is into more modern tone, R&B, etc. I imagine Florida will cover more ground, but I think the tone of the Double Ring is what associated with the vintage Link tone, or at least what I relate to the tone I hear in some of the old recordings.
 

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I understand. The Florida’s and the double rings are different beasts.
If you look at the history of their mouthpiece line, you can see how they got more aggressive as time went on through the 70s. The Double Rings came before the Florida models, and they are warmer.

Master Link, 4****, Tonemaster, Double Ring models, Florida models, EB’s.
 

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I was also looking to some comparison videos and photos between double ring and early and mid 60's no USA Florida and looked like the baffle is changed quite a bit. The double ring has a short rollover baffle (I think it ended up being slightly longer in the one Eric copied but still sort of short) but once passed the first few millimeters with deeper angle down to the chamber. So the rollover perhaps gives that buzz and the dive to the chamber gives the fatness (sort of mid-scoop frequency profile), rather than Florida no USA that Eric used has a long and very slight rollover baffle (almost straight) but because the angle is not as deep toward the chamber, it creates more material in let's say 1/2 to 3/4 inch from the tip which perhaps contribute to make it sound brighter (high mid-range more pronounced) although the buzz and fatness is not as much as the double ring. Perhaps this characteristic makes it sound what you associate as aggressive. I imagine because of less buzz and more midrange it sounds as if it has more core tone that is also good for the loud mixes.
 

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They look exactly like the Retro Revival blanks only with different markings. I hear that Mac Sax is making these blanks for other companies.
 

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1. We are making the most perfect replicas of the pieces that we are copying.

2. Macsax does NOT make the Falcon Woodwinds pieces.

3. Macsax DOES make Retros pieces.

4. Does Macsax supply some of their blanks to other people?? I wouldn’t know. You would have to confirm that with Macsax.

5. I have had many of Retros pieces through here. I will tell you that we are not interested in making tweaked up versions of the originals.
We will allow players today to really see and feel the vintage experience the way it was intended from copies of the best pieces made.
We wish ALL the companies out there making their versions of vintage pieces, the best of luck and great success.

We are simply dedicated to making the finest copies of the best vintage pieces out there, without internal adjustments.
 

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Yes, we DO NOT use anyone elses blanks. We CT SCAN the original vintage pieces we are going to copy, and these are what we put out. These have absolutely nothing to do with anyone elses blanks.

Thank you. What are you playing on for tenor?
 

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Too many different pieces to mention them all. Mostly links. On hard rubber I use an Early Babbitt HR that was worked on by the great James Bunte. I have a no USA metal tenor that Mojo refaced, very nice. I have a great Zimberoff House of Note 7*, a Stubby, an 8 Slant, among others.
 

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Beautiful...all great models.
James and Mojo do very fine work. I have had many great examples from both through here.
 
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