Sax on the Web Forum Archive / Alto Saxophone / Yanagiswa Competiton

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Big B
User ID: 9433023
Aug 7th 1:15 AM
Anyone used to seeing some of my post know about my love of yanagiswa saxes and I plan on making a purchace really soon...hopefully. Now dealing with alto saxes has anyone had experience with most of the yanagisawa saxes ( they are all considered pro level ) I am talking about models A901 ( also silverplate) A991 ( also silverplate )amd the 992. If you have tell me your favorite and why.

I also want to see how they fare against some other saxes you hae played. Also I have been on the Yanagiswa Catalog website and seen some of the features of each and wondering if things like needle springs and metal resonaters really make a difference in the horns quality. I am looking for a sax upgrade over my old King 660 so I would like good quality sugestions. For reference I am am a high school junior in virginia where music competition is tough so I am looking for something that would help me stand out for the rest but I am a great player and some say the best in my school but I am tring for much more than that. Oh yeah I know someof you guys wouldlike it but no Vintage recomendations cause many of the good ones are too expensive.
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Aug 7th 3:49 AM
I have played most of them and like the A991 best for a good classic all round tone and feel. I haven't tried the A991S but suspect I might like it more.

I found the A992 a bit dead sounding, though I loved the look and feel of it, but it didn't excite. The solid silver ones are all very clean and clear sounding but sounded a bit too hi-fi to me and I think the gold keys look awful on a silver sax.

The A901 is a good bright horn, accurate intonation, feels good to play but the keywork and finish are not as solid as the more expensive models. Though the construction is the same on the A901S, somehow it has more class in feel and sound, though it is nearly as expensive as the A991 but it would be my second choice after the A991.

BTW, they seem to switch between metal and plastic resonators at random, I have seen both. We have thee 901 series horns, two have plastic, one has metal.
David
User ID: 0770504
Aug 7th 11:37 AM
im pretty sure that the standard for 901 and 991 are both plastic while the 992 is metal, but i have heard stuff like it does not make too much of a difference.

im most likely going to get a black lacquered 991 cause it looks so cool :P plus its supposedly the best of the bunch, or one of the best.

good luck tho.
Dave Dolson
User ID: 9209903
Aug 7th 11:42 AM
Big B: I have the A992 and believe it had the best sound of all the newly made hi-end altos I tested (Yamaha, JK, etc.). The bronze 992 had more resonance than I heard in the others. I guess everyone hears it differently.

Your request NOT to hear about vintage altos because of the pricing puzzles me. I probably have about $850 in my re-built Buescher TrueTone (purchase price and subsequent overhaul) and it will outplay ANY alto I've seen, including all of the Selmers I've owned (MKVI, BA, MKVII, Cigar Cutter) and all of the Yanas and Yamahas I've owned/played.

Considering the price of even a used Yana 990 series, that's a heck of a lot of vintage saxophones. DAVE
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Aug 7th 12:56 PM
OK I really didn't mean all vintage but things like the MArk VI can stay out cause of its high pricing 2500+ and trust me cause it is sacond hand it don't seem as worth as a brand new sax from somewhere else that is most likely cheeper.
Dave Dolson
User ID: 9209903
Aug 7th 2:48 PM
Big B: I concur about the outrageous prices for MKVI horns these days (and $2500+ for even a mediocre MKVI is probably too low in today's market), but there are those who will pay a lot for the ultimate saxophone (not that MKVIs are ultimate, but many think they are - and there are some MKVIs that are wonderful - I have one).

For the money, though, there are a bunch of really good vintage saxophones out there - and many that will outplay that certain overpriced MKVI.

Just because a saxophone is brand new, and even new from the top-line manufacturers, doesn't make it a better player than an old Buescher or Conn or Martin or Selmer pre-MKVI. True, the new Yanas are terrific horns and you probably won't go wrong popping the $2500+ for one.

You'd be better off NOT thinking about vintage saxophones as "second-hand merchandise", but rather as an opportunity to pick up a great saxophone for a reasonable price - and much lower than a new Selmer or Yana. Many of us who've been playing for a while (me? 46+ years), can attest to the real value in vintage horns. Again, good luck. DAVE
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Aug 7th 11:31 PM
well its ok I am just a younger player being 15 and into my 6th year of playing and just looking for something to suit my needs...something that sounds great...something I don't have to get adjusted and put too much work in a my age...and something that feels good and fun to play...oh yeah sorry for being in the wrong topic group but has anyone compareda saxophone.com horn to any yanagiswa sax cause I have been leaning both ways but don't know what to decide...a good brand name that is full of positive background or a horn I don't have much feedback on but the few it has is posititve...?????
David
User ID: 0770504
Aug 7th 11:45 PM
i was about to say the same things.

for whatever reason a vintage horn is not an option, leave it at that.
grammar police
User ID: 9063723
Aug 8th 2:29 AM
You teenagers may need to spend more time on your readin' and writin' to be understood correctly. Big B's paragraph is one long sentence-difficult to follow. How can you compare a saxophone.com horn to a yanagiswa sax? David is another guy who spent too much time with his horn and not enough on writing.
grammar police
User ID: 9063723
Aug 8th 3:45 AM
Perhaps you guys are big fans of Jack Kerouac. His incoherence actually made sense. Yours just implies illiteracy.
BobD
User ID: 0352454
Aug 8th 8:48 AM
BigB,

ou should seriously consider a vintage sax. Take a look at this one.
http://www.vintagesax.com/images/bsch288a.jpg

I don't know what it costs but Buescher altos are amazing instruments. My friend has a lacquered aristocrat that is not nearly as pretty as this one but man can it play. It's effortless to blow. Your cheating yourself if you don't consider vintage.

BobD
BobD
User ID: 0352454
Aug 8th 8:49 AM
Here's an even nicer one!

http://www.vintagesax.com/images/bsch288a.jpg

BobD
daver
User ID: 3452384
Aug 8th 8:57 AM
Big B... check out the Yana A990 horns. They are essentially the same as the A991 but can be had for a lot less second-hand. The 990 has a plastic thumb hook, instead of brass, and front alt F button, instead of a spoon, but these are pretty minor differences. A lot of pro-quality horn for the money, reliable too, and still almost "new" if you don't want to get into the vintage thing.
Dave Dolson
User ID: 9209903
Aug 8th 11:37 AM
BobD: Isn't that a nice looking Conn (the first one you linked)? I've looked at that horn several times. The only Conn I have now is a straight gold-plated soprano I got from Gayle at Vintagesax.com.

My favorite vintage saxophones are Bueschers, but that Conn is a knock-out. I would think it would play as good as it looks, coming from Gayle. Anyone buying a vintage horn from Gayle can safely assume the thing will play with no hassles.

Big B: I didn't mean to beat you up with this vintage thing, but I thought that at your age, you could use some insight from someone who's been down the road. I sure wish I'd had a forum such as SOTW when I was your age to help me understand more about life and saxophones.

And Grammar police has some good advice, too . . . clear-writing skills are essential for your career. DAVE
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Aug 8th 12:54 PM
OK yes my typing skills stink but thats not the point...as long as I can write but lets get back on track here. I have heard all the vintage defenses so how about what i want to focus on and that yanagiswa and does anyone have a used yani for sale cause that may seem a lot cheeper.But give me your opinions and a good horn fo today.
Dave Dolson
User ID: 9209903
Aug 8th 2:19 PM
Big B: I recommend you either post in MARKETPLACE (that you are looking to buy a used Yana alto) OR you begin bidding on eBay for used Yanas. Another option is if you live close enough to a good band-instrument retailer or repair-tech, you may be able to find one or check local bulletin boards at those businesses for one.

Buying from Internet-based sellers will lead you to the same dilemma that you THINK exists with vintage horns - you may end up with a used Yana at a higher price that needs more adjustments than would a super vintage horn from a reputable vintage-dealer (like Gayle or the others who post here regularly).

Unless you can play-test a used Yana before you buy it, there is no way to ensure the used Yana doesn't need some tech-work.

If you are set on a Yanagisawa (and that is the best choice for modern saxophones, in my opinion), and can afford it, you'd probably be better off to buy a new one from one of the reputable Internet based sellers (like Saxofoonwinkle, Matthews Music, Woodwind & Brasswind, USAHorn, for example). The chances of a new Yana arriving ready to play from one of those sources is a lot higher than buying used from an unknown seller.

Is buying a new one costly? Yes. Worth it? Probably. Long-term value? Yes. A new Yana is probably a life-time player with any kind of care and maintenance. I'd wager a new A991 will be hassle-free AND meet all of your needs for years to come. Good luck. DAVE
Bobd
User ID: 0352454
Aug 8th 3:27 PM
I still think you should try this one.

http://www.vintagesax.com/images/bsch288a.jpg

I bet it would play much better than a Yani. And with the same care the yani would require it would last a life time.
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Aug 11th 9:51 PM
Ok Here is the thing. I do not want a Buescher or any vintage horn I wnt to stick with a nice new up to date horn. I might consider a older horn at later date but I'll stick with something I can trust now.
David
User ID: 9092003
Aug 12th 1:57 AM
cmon people. the guy is asking about YANAGISAWA horns, and not vintage horns. even though you may think one is better , specifically vintage horns, it does not have a place in this thread, so post about them somewhere else. please.
BobD
User ID: 0352454
Aug 12th 8:24 AM
If your set on the Yani then from what I have read on this forum the 99X horns are built better than the 90X horns. The 99X horns have double arms on the low B and C keys and ribbed construction. You should probably compare the 991 and 992 and see which one you prefer.
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