Sax on the Web Forum Archive / Alto Saxophone / Tenor to alto...? Air problem..

Edo
User ID: 1014104
Oct 31st 9:35 AM
Is it me or is it true that a tenor player going to alto can't put as much air to an alto??

I find that I can't blow as much as I would..

Currently using Dukoff D8 silverite alto, well, it's more like a D10, it has 0.100~" tip opening..and a soft reed, Rico #2, I tried going to #2 1/2, but it was too hard, stuffy and airy..and I felt like forcing my jaw..

My alto is a pre-Chu Conn..I've been playing tenor for 1 1/2 year now, alto for about 7 months..my tenor setup is: nickel plated Dukoff D8, LaVoz MedHard or Jazz Select 3M..

Anyone care to share experience or elaborate this phenomenon or anything?

Thanks in advance...
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Oct 31st 10:32 AM
The air support needed is different on each size of sax. I find my lungs work best on soprano and alto, it certainly needs a fast secure airstream, but perhaps less volume of air. The choice of reed and mouthpiece makes a huge difference as well, I like a bit of resistance but no so much that it is uncomfortable to play. I love playing all the saxes and just have to remember on bari, that the air is likely to run out quicker than I expect!
SaxColuss
User ID: 0860834
Oct 31st 11:43 AM
Yup..the air support is different cause of the size of each saxes....I used to practice long tones on bari sax..... then I'll play my alto... And I av LOTS of air!!! But keep in mind that on bari/ tenor, the embouchure is different than that of alto... Long tones/ Sustaining notes is a must! It's tedious,man....but the results, I assure u, will be satisfying.... Cheers! Keep on saxin'..... (P.S. Sustain those low notes!!)
SaxColuss
User ID: 0860834
Oct 31st 11:44 AM
Yup..the air support is different cause of the size of each saxes....I used to practice long tones on bari sax..... then I'll play my alto... And I av LOTS of air!!! But keep in mind that on bari/ tenor, the embouchure is different than that of alto... Long tones/ Sustaining notes is a must! It's tedious,man....but the results, I assure u, will be satisfying.... Cheers! Keep on saxin'..... (P.S. Sustain those low notes!!)
Thomas
User ID: 0930774
Oct 31st 1:41 PM
get a HR mpc with a smaller tip opening-something around .080-use a 2.5 or 3 reed....you'll have plenty of air-
Edo
User ID: 1014104
Nov 3rd 12:30 PM
I got it..it's really quite logical, but I think I can blow more air in more modern saxes.. or is it because of the Conn's bore?
Ian O'B.
User ID: 8924643
Nov 3rd 2:24 PM
A tenor player switching to alto will probably have troubles adjusting to the faster air stream necessary and the stale air that often lingers in the lungs, and you have to actually breathe out before you breathe in. It's even moreso with soprano. This is true if you play similar setups on both kinds of sax.

I can play an alto D2 for 50 seconds straight and keep it in tune. On tenor I'd be lucky to get 25.