Sax on the Web Forum Archive / Alto Saxophone / Selmer Series III vs Yanagisawa 992

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Big B
User ID: 9433023
Jun 11th 7:30 PM
Well I am a young player in my fifth year of playing...5 years on Alto and 3 on Tenor....I wanted to know a great upgrade on saxes and I have paticular intrest in both these horns. Now before anyone gets on the Yahama Custom trip I didn't like it much cause of it's smaller feel and I have VERY large hands so I wasn't fond of the fell and the very resistant sound....( For Reference my combo is a selmer C* S90 and Hemke, or vandoren reeds 2 1/2 to 3 1/2..well I am now wanting to get off of my King 660 student ( pathetic isn't it) and upgrade to either of these two horns...For reference do NOT give me vintage references like the Mark VI or King Super 20 cause I am not willing to work with older horns and feel better with the newer models thanks
Dave Dolson
User ID: 9209903
Jun 11th 7:59 PM
Big B: I've only experienced the comparison among sopranos . . . and for me (and I emphasize it is a very personal choice), my S992 was superior to my silver Serie III sop. After buying the S992, I sold the Selmer.

For alto, I have an A992 that is a wonderful instrument. Over the past few years, I'd tested several different pro-line altos, and this A992 is the one - again, for me. DAVE
jjgold
User ID: 2706694
Jun 11th 9:03 PM
I have owned both the Yani 992 and the Series III. The Yani (IMO) is by far the bettter horn. It is more freeblowing, projects much better and provides the player with a voice. The Series III was stiff, and stuffy and a little too bright in sound. The only plus for the Selmer was it's intonation was very good but it is no Yani 992
Brice B.
User ID: 0352454
Jun 11th 9:11 PM
I've played both, and they're both good. Yani's seem a little better made, and they feel great, but Selmer has a lot more personality. I would take a III over a Yani, because it still plays great, and has a little something that is more special about it, plus the Selmer tradition.
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Jun 12th 4:38 AM
I would prefer the Selmer III as an alto, as it has a more versatile sound for me - the 992 being a bit dark and heavy - whereas for tenor I favour the 992. I have not been impressed with the Series III tenors I played, whereas the bronze gives the 992 tenor sax a nice heavy bottom end.

That said, these are two of the nicest ranges you will find and you could like any of them - if you fancy a III tenor, definitely play it first as the two or three I have tried have been very dead sounding horns.
Gordon (NZ)
User ID: 1265504
Jun 12th 5:16 AM
I wonder if they were dead because they still have the multitude of leaks they were probably made with.
Good comments above on tone.
If you want the reliability afforded by great quality control in a mechanical sense, go for Yanagisawa.
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Jun 12th 5:48 AM
I agree about the quality control, although the III tenor I tried seemed to 'work' OK, it did all I asked of it but had no soul. I play a III alto myself, though, which is a fantastic horn.

I would pitch either a A991 or A991S (silverplate) against the III rather than the A992 if I were looking for a similar sound palette to the Selmer Series III. The A992 is darker and more like a Selmer II in sound to me, and neither floats my boat I am afraid!
Rob
User ID: 3459474
Jun 12th 8:20 AM
if the yamaha is too small for you, the selmer will be WAY TOO small, i would suggest play testing the yani and might give a Keilwerth, they are more adjustable and fit in bigger hands more comfortably.

give the selmer a play, it might be worth putting palm risers on if you really like it a lot
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Jun 12th 1:32 PM
Well still the Custom was just not that great a horn to me so I want to know if the metal reflectors on the 992 help it over the 991 or is it just a cool thing to have cause I feel the bst horns on the market today are Yanagiswa so I know the 991 has a brighter sound but for classical I may need the 992 for the darker pitch..And I can change up the mouthpiece, reed, ligature combination for te brighter sound so what would end up being the better horn for just playing....991 or 992 since it seems selmer is out.
Rob
User ID: 3459474
Jun 12th 4:22 PM
sounds like you narrowed it down, get your hands on those horns you think you'll like and give them some test blows, only you can pick out the right sax for you
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Jun 12th 9:16 PM
Well thanks now it's time for me to get a good ride to Chuck Levin Washington Music cause handss down the have the BEST prices on new horns in the US...Yes even better than USA horn and may be on par with saxophones.co.uk. I really want to try to bright sound of the silver and see if I prefer it over the darker sound of the Bronze but only a test will tell... Plus Yanagiswa's are just the funnest horns to play cause of their great freeness with many horns just don't have in them
Rob
User ID: 3459474
Jun 12th 10:45 PM
please report back your findings


happy hunting
stevew
User ID: 0478154
Jun 13th 1:34 AM
Yani seem to alternate use of plastic or metal resos at will, with no consistency.
Brice B.
User ID: 2100804
Jun 13th 8:29 AM
Chuck had somewhat poor selection when I was there a few months ago. And the prices were deffinetely NOT that good. Be sure to try the Yani 9330 when you're there... I liked it much better over any of their other models. I would almost get it over a Selmer.
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Jun 13th 11:44 AM
What do you mean not that good I got an estimate on a 991Silver Saxophones and it was at the very low price of 2295 so compared to many other places that is like 500-100 dollar savings on a very good horn
Anon
User ID: 7461463
Jun 13th 2:30 PM
A9330, $3200. I told them no thanks, I can almost get a VI for that. We were even told it was an "insiders" deal, because our teacher is good friends with the store. I'm sure they are a great store, and give good service, etc..., but it wasn't that great when we went.
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Jun 13th 3:16 PM
Well I really wouldn't want a VI I mean there are OLD and in most cases are in bad conditions so I feel much better with a rich sounding new Yanagisawa than an old crusty MArk VI...I say its time for evolution and just forget about the old vintage horns because even though they are the inspiration for newer models if support goes to the new comapnies, particually the Big four.....Yahama(not that good to me), Selmer(I havn't had many to actually see), Yanagisawa(The most fun to play on for me), and Keilworth( also a no experience) I really think there are much greater horns than this Mark VI everyone is bragging about and it is time to look for it..it is good to embrace the past but better to look towards the future...
.
User ID: 0972444
Jun 13th 3:41 PM
Or if you have load of cash you can custom order yana. 991 GP gold plated with bronze gold plated neck + engraving all over the place.
Big B
User ID: 9433023
Jun 13th 7:48 PM
Well the money about 2500 is ogoing to maybe a 991, and the rest go to a custom system like the retal resonaters, and a certain engraving on the side along wit my nig Vandoren 3 reed plate lig I should be all set for VA Districts and States
stevew
User ID: 8868883
Jun 14th 7:52 AM
I think the silver plated Yanis are their best horns, if you have the chance of a good deal on one give it a run. I have a T901S and it seems overall much better made and finished than a lacquer one and I found the same on an alto I tried. The 991S models are also great, and have a genuinely pro construction.
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