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03-19-2007, 02:13 AM
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Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
Hi all looking for a new mpc that has that old linkish Dukk Dexter sound ...deep rich full in the top end ..lush in the bottom and with good projection...easy blowin.....Tenor Metal...any opinions on these mpcs as I am willing to pay the price to get the mpc that I can get stuck in with once and for all.....I know good luck ehh...
Thanks Steve
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03-19-2007, 02:50 AM
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The Barone Jazz sounds better for what sound you're describing.
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03-19-2007, 04:33 AM
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I have played both.
I didn't like the Barone.
I now use the JJ DV NY as my #1 piece.
You can test try the JJ, no charge, return if you don't like.
What d'ya got to lose ??
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03-19-2007, 04:38 AM
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No hurt in a trial period, but make sure you blow the Barone too. Some people swear by their Barone's....others by the DV NY....check Ebay, I think theres one of each on there. You can't really go wrong if you buy both...and just sell the one you don't keep...
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03-19-2007, 04:38 AM
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I have a DV NY 8 for sale here, if it may interest you.
I had a Barone Jazz more than a year ago (when I was playing another tenor) for a couple of months. For what I remember, the Barone was much darker and I ended up selling because it sounded too similar to a stock Link NY (I got lucky and received one that need no refacing from Music123). The DV NY is brighter, less resistant and I'd say sounds "cleaner" to my ears. I have hard time to get a focused tone out of it, but that's probably because my favorite openings are 6 or 6*.
Anyways, this comparison is not so fair because I played the Barone with a B&S 2001 and now the DV NY with a serie III.
I personally prefer my Tenney Link STM to both the Barone and the DV NY.
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03-21-2007, 12:46 PM
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Barone Jazz
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Originally Posted by rispoli
I have a DV NY 8 for sale here, if it may interest you.
I had a Barone Jazz more than a year ago (when I was playing another tenor) for a couple of months. For what I remember, the Barone was much darker and I ended up selling because it sounded too similar to a stock Link NY (I got lucky and received one that need no refacing from Music123). The DV NY is brighter, less resistant and I'd say sounds "cleaner" to my ears. I have hard time to get a focused tone out of it, but that's probably because my favorite openings are 6 or 6*.
Anyways, this comparison is not so fair because I played the Barone with a B&S 2001 and now the DV NY with a serie III.
I personally prefer my Tenney Link STM to both the Barone and the DV NY.
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I concurr with Rispoli. I play a Stock Link NY and a MOJO refaced Link ( slightly brighter) Not due to MOJOs work. He actually darkened it slightly for me along with thinning and correcting the rails.
The Barone Jazz Was a NY Link with MANNERS! It was a little softer around the edges and if I hadn't already two good Links I would have kept it.
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05-21-2007, 04:04 AM
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I played a DV the other day and found it be very bright. A lot brighter than what you are describing.
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05-21-2007, 04:25 AM
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You may wish to try a Dukoff H chamber. You can apparently order them from Dukoff. I've been playing on a H9 which was worked on by EZ. An 8* would probably be a pretty good bet. Good luck.
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05-21-2007, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TJS
I played a DV the other day and found it be very bright. A lot brighter than what you are describing.
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Did you play the DV NY or the DV?
The DV is certainly very bright. The DV NY is not so bright, perhaps not even dark: good middle of the road. A little brighter than the ESP without spoiler (and with more volume/projection).
Also note that the long facing makes possible to play wider openings than you may be used to.
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05-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rispoli
Did you play the DV NY or the DV?
The DV is certainly very bright. The DV NY is not so bright, perhaps not even dark: good middle of the road. A little brighter than the ESP without spoiler (and with more volume/projection).
Also note that the long facing makes possible to play wider openings than you may be used to.
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I didn't realize there was such a thing as the DV NY. I think it was a DV. I really liked the way it played it was just too bright. I need to try a DV NY.
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11-11-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
UP!
i can't decide between jodyjazz DVNY and Barone jazz
i'm from Italy and unfortunatly i can't try them before to buy..
can you help me?
differences?
wich is the best for you?
I've a Keilwerth Toneking (1958)
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11-12-2008, 07:50 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
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UP!
i can't decide between jodyjazz DVNY and Barone jazz
i'm from Italy and unfortunatly i can't try them before to buy..
can you help me?
differences?
wich is the best for you?
I've a Keilwerth Toneking (1958)
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You can try the JJ's before you buy.
Email them and you will find them very helpful.
They said I could take as long as I liked to try their pieces.
Just stay in touch is all they asked.
Of course they do put a lock on the funds in your credit card just in
case you do not return the piece.
I wasn't at all impressed with the Barone I tried.
My Link was far better.
Now the JJ DV NY outstrips the Link.
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11-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
If you want a linkish sound....why dont you just buy a link for 200$ less? makes more sense to me...
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11-12-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
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I wasn't at all impressed with the Barone I tried.
My Link was far better.
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What model Barone did you try and what didn't work?
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11-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
I used to have a Barone NY as my main tenor piece and I currently own a JodyJazz DV and HR* . While not exactly the same models, I think that Jody Jazz products are superior. I had to work much harder on the Barone to get a good tone. And I picked that Barone as the best of 6 Barones I had on trial from Woodwind and Brasswind. It was more work than what it should be. The JJ's are much easier to play in my opinion.
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11-12-2008, 09:21 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
I've tried both and kept neither. The DV NY was much more free blowing than the Barone and had a lot fatter bottom end, easier to play. I couldn't get the upper register to work well for me on the DV NY, tried a bunch of reeds, but was just too spread & subdued. On the other hand, Jody had some samples of some guy (Dino ?) on his site playing a DV NY and he sounded great, lots of focus and clarity in the upper registers. I really didn't care for the Barone Jazz, it had too much resistance for me, some people like that & I don't. It had a nice sound but a lot of work when I wanted to get some volume out of it.
I also tried STM's (one NY and one regular STM) refaced by Ed Z. Of the 2 the regular STM was absolutely great, the NY was pretty good. I sold both when I got a Florida Link STM copy faced by Ted Klum. It was pretty close to the EZ STM but a bit more focus and power.
I second all the voices that say "try them out", because what works for me may not work for you, and something I dislike may be just what you're looking for.
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11-12-2008, 10:37 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
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I couldn't get the upper register to work well for me on the DV NY, tried a bunch of reeds, but was just too spread & subdued. On the other hand, Jody had some samples of some guy (Dino ?) on his site playing a DV NY and he sounded great, lots of focus and clarity in the upper registers.
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That's an interesting comment since on almost all the comments I've read about JJs, one of their strengths are their altissimo.
BTW, Dino could sound great blowing into an oil funnel.
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11-13-2008, 12:36 AM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
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That's an interesting comment since on almost all the comments I've read about JJs, one of their strengths are their altissimo.
BTW, Dino could sound great blowing into an oil funnel. 
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Just to be clear, by upper register I'm talking about notes involving the octave key, D2 to f3 and not the altissimo, which I refer to as "altissimo". Just trying to confuse you
As I recall Dino was playing a bigger tip opening, like maybe an 8* (think mine was a 7*) so that could be a factor, that plus his skill level being way beyond mine.
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11-13-2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
How about throwing the Guardala Crescent into the comparison discussion? Thanks.
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11-13-2008, 11:30 PM
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Re: Jody Jazz DV NY vrs Barone Jazz Tenor
A good link is often the winner against even the best handmade mouthpieces...that is the magic of a link....
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