Ivan Meyer (Brazil) SotW Mouthpiece Pass Around

[sounds7]

I wouldn't mind trying before buying. I am seriously in the market though and he will likely get a sale if I like his mouth piece. I play a Meyer 7m on tenor but want an Alto mouthpiece for my Mark VI. A medium chamber with a 6 or 7 opening. I like bright for Jazz fusion and funk.

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Originally Posted by sounds7

I wouldn't mind trying before buying. I am seriously in the market though and he will likely get a sale if I like his mouth piece. I play a Meyer 7m on tenor but want an Alto mouthpiece for my Mark VI. A medium chamber with a 6 or 7 opening. I like bright for Jazz fusion and funk.

My friend, you will love the mouthpiece for alto sax. The Dr.G be experiencing because they are the mouthpiece with it.

Thank you for writing.
Ivan Meyer

[sounds7]

They look and sound great Ivan. You make more than one style though yes? I just want to make sure I get the right one for my tastes thats all. I dont doubt your workmanship one bit.

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Originally Posted by sounds7

They look and sound great Ivan. You make more than one style though yes? I just want to make sure I get the right one for my tastes thats all. I dont doubt your workmanship one bit.

I sent 06 high-mouthpiece with different sounds and mouthpiece 03 of 01 for soprano and tenor for the PASS AROUND and they are with Dr G and believe that once the saxophonists will do the tests and put opnião on the loudness of the mouthpiece .
Thanks
Ivan Meyer

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Hello Dr. G.
Already tested the mouthpiece?
Thanks for the help.
Ivan Meyer

pesquisar

[jmoen3]

I was wondering the same myself. .

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

I believe that Dr G is on vacation and brought with him the mouthpiece to be playing on the beach.
I am also awaiting the return of G DR WITH THE NEWS






Good Vacations

Ivan Meyer

[Dr G]

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=117827

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Originally Posted by Dr G

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=117827

They are here and ready to go to the next participant!

Please note that this thread is for the TENOR mouthpieces only.

Ivan sent three tenor pieces, each a work of art. Large tip openings, medium-large chamber (others may call it "large"). At first blush, the finish is very eye catching - engraved through a top coat of silver plate. Some of you that get hung up on machining marks will be put off - I encourage you to blow these mouthpieces though, before you pass judgment.

The shank diameter is on the small side - those playing LT Guardalas and older Barones will have no issues. On the other hand, my Borgani Jubilee with a Gloger-modified neck could not take enough of the mouthpiece to get it in a correct position so I cannot comment on intonation. Even though I couldn't put the mouthpiece in the correct position on my horn, response was even and full throughout the range.

Quite frankly, I was loathe to try the pieces with the supplied synthetic reed. I keep two Fibercell reeds in my gigbag just in case but have not used either in over 5 years. I always found the sound of them fuzzy, uncentered, distasteful... Yucky??? Imagine my surprise, then, to put the supplied Fibercell reed on the .110, blow, and get a Huge, Round, Full Sound. These are NOT peashooters. If you are looking for razor edge, laser beam, paint peeler, find a different tool.

Ivan has a unique approach to making these pieces and I encourage everyone in the trial to get past the visual inspection and right to the playing. I was ready to critique the rails as nominally wide and the tip rail as too thin. Those that have criticized Lamberson mouthpieces as having a too rough interior may find objection to the surface finish of these as well. Play them.

I like the Lawton-style ligature. Be aware that even though one can use them as a vise, they are a ligature. Don't clamp the reed with excessive pressure - you don't need to.

I asked Ivan whether we should be using a mouthpiece patch to protect the bite plates and he replied that it is not necessary so I didn't. The inlays seem to be a very hard and tough epoxy. I really like the look and feel.

When these trials are over, I shall select one of these mouthpieces, ream it to fit my horn and try it again. I like them enough to want to give them a real wringing out. Rework/tweaking is certainly an issue when working with anyone across international boundaries. Given that Ivan is a gifted musician, I should think that if a person can communicate their experience and needs, that Ivan can produce a good mouthpiece without iteration.

For those in future trials, please post your setup. If you do try alternate reeds, let us know. Ivan seems to have the synthetic reeds designed into the concept - why, I don't know. It seems to work
Dr G

[MyMartinTenor]

Dr. G sent me a pm last week, so I suspect that I'm next on the list for the tenor passaround. Looking forward to it!

[Brian]

Originally Posted by MyMartinTenor

Dr. G sent me a pm last week, so I suspect that I'm next on the list for the tenor passaround. Looking forward to it!

Hmmmm ... I got the same PM

[Dr G]

No, Brian, you didn't get the same PM. Brian is first, MMT is on deck.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Dr G

No, Brian, you didn't get the same PM. Brian is first, MMT is on deck.

I'm watching the mail!
Thanks for the clarification

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Originally postage by DR G

REVIEW SOPRANO HAND MADE MOUTHPIECE IVAN MEYER

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthr...ght=ivan+meyer
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Yes, there is a soprano mouthpiece in the passaround!

http://www.ivanmeyer.com/album/mouthpiece32.jpg

This is a gorgeous lil' piece. The track ligature mimics that of a Lawton and I especially like it on soprano. The tip opening of this mouthpiece is noted as .082". The chamber is on the large side (vs a choke or reduced section chamber) yet the mouthpiece's volume is on a par with my Lamberson Fmaj7.

You may recall that some years ago, there was a thread on large tip openings, Steve Lacy, etc. I was quite caught up by that and have wanted to try a larger tip. My current stable of sop mouthpieces include Lamberson Fmaj7 .070, Barone Vintage HR .070, Bari/JVW reface .068, and a Meyer with extensive facing (.070) and chamber work by SotW member, jicaino (Juan Caino). On my SC-992, this Ivan Meyer (Brasil) 'piece is loud, bold, responsive, and dynamic. Although easy to control down to soft dynamics as well, I had severe issues with intonation.

If I were to commit to this piece, I am confident that I could develop the requisite control to dial in the intonation. When playing predictable lines, I had no problem maintaining the ear/head/embouchure connection to nail pitch. When I pushed myself, tho', with, for instance, arpeggios progressing in minor thirds, or moving challenging intervals at defined steps (ala Barry Finnerty concepts from the Serious Jazz Practice Book), I found myself losing the center of my pitch. If I then looked at my tuner, I would find that I could pull the pitch down an entire step!

High marks for the execution of this piece with regard to design and execution. The large chamber and moderate baffle make for a very pleasing tone with excellent volume. Don't take the large tip opening lightly - this one showed me that my confidence with what I previously considered a large tip was not appropriate with this piece. Tenor is my main horn and I normally play .120". I would have to commit and devote myself to this mouthpiece before I could comfortable and confidently play it in an ensemble situation where pitch mattered. If I couldn't hear myself well, I don't know where my pitch would go.
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Originally posted by Dr G

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Dr.G

I would like to thank you very much for organizing this pass around and allow so many participants of this forum to try my mouthpieces and to give me feed back about them. Each feedback will be carefully read and the suggestions will help me improve the mouthpieces.

The intonation issues you pointed out are a common problem when someone who is used to shorter tip openings try a bigger opening mouthpieces. It really takes a couple of weeks to get used to it, and to achieve a perfect intonation. But, even though big opening mouthpieces are more difficult to control on intonation, they are easier to bend notes and to get some other effects. That's the reason for I prefer and recommend bigger tip openings than shorter ones. But I can make any tip opening the customer asks for, from very short to extra big ones.

Best regards, and thank you very much again,

Ivan Meyer

[Dr G]

Originally Posted by Ivan Meyer Brasil

The intonation issues you pointed out are a common problem when someone who is used to shorter tip openings try a bigger opening mouthpieces. It really takes a couple of weeks to get used to it, and to achieve a perfect intonation. But, even though big opening mouthpieces are more difficult to control on intonation, they are easier to bend notes and to get some other effects.

Exactly so. I thought it would have been less a challenge for me since I play .120 on tenor and .070 on sop. I'd like to spend more time with the sop 'piece after the SotW members have had a chance to try it.

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Originally Posted by Dr G

Exactly so. I thought it would have been less a challenge for me since I play .120 on tenor and .070 on sop. I'd like to spend more time with the sop 'piece after the SotW members have had a chance to try it.

DrG

I'm afraid the pass around will take many weeks to reach its end. So, I would like to offer you two free mouthpieces, 1 soprano and 1 tenor as a gift for helping me in the pass around. Just tell me what tip opening and facing lenth you prefer, as well as what finish you like most, that I will make the mouthpiecer acording and send you in a couple of weeks.

Thank you so much again for helping me.

Ivan Meyer

P.S.: I realised that some tenor mouthpieces were made with a shank hole a little tighter than ordinary measures. I'm afraid the ones I sent to the pass around are some of these. The problem was due to a mistake when setting the lathe to make the hole. The next mouthpieces will sure have a wider diameter and you'll be able to introduce the neck as much as necessary to get the correct intonation. I'm sorry for that.

[Dr G]

Thanks, Ivan. Given your generosity, that makes it easier for me to decide to underwrite the cost of shipping mouthpieces to Europe so we can have one of the first multi-national mouthpiece passaround trials.

I have already received some queries about what to do if a SotW member likes the mouthpiece trial enough that they want to keep a piece. Would you prefer to sell it to the first person that likes it or continue the passaround and sell pieces after everyone has had the opportunity to try them? I tend to favor the second option as I consider it important that everyone that wants to try them has the opportunity.

[mariofercde]

In a few weeks (I hope... ), I will receiving my new *Ivan Meyer mouthpiece alto sax*...

[Ivan Meyer Brasil]

Originally Posted by mariofercde

In a few weeks (I hope... ), I will receiving my new *Ivan Meyer mouthpiece alto sax*...

Ola, usted a comprado la boquilha em mi tienda www.soprasax.com.br ?

No me recuerdo de una compra a ser enviada para Paraguay ???

Puede me explicar do que se trata ?

Salu2
Ivan Meyer