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    I love weird and esoteric,too much time not playing I suppose,so here goes.Does anyone know anything about TR Music alto saxes, The illustration on their site shows a sax that looks like Adophe's original design and at US$60 I want one.
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    The Indian made saxes that I periodically see are bad imitation of ancient saxophones or better said they are simulacra of a saxophone , not being an actual musical instrument but only having the likeness of one.

    this is also the case with these objects called improperly saxophones by these people. They are unplayable as the clarinets and cornets whixh the also flog and mostly have the fake name Bessons engraved on them. Funny detail their serial number is all the same on all instruments

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    Quote Originally Posted by bechisbest View Post
    ... at US$60 I want one.
    Trust me: you don't.

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    What a shame, I thought they might be archaic and crude, but I hoped they would blow and produce a recognisable note.Perhaps I'm still a trifle naive. (stupid)

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    Do not even CONSIDER buying one of these horns!! They are a joke (bad one)
    If you have money to waste give it to charity or buy your mother something nice but DONT get one of these.
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    Being a noted supporter of lost causes(I am STILL a socialist), I did a search and I found another 'maker' of saxes in India who wanted US.$275 for what looks like the same thing TR is charging X for.Now $275 is serious cash.In the US you could get a decent alto shipped from the UK for that money, and also buy reeds.What can the suppliers /makers hope to achieve? I wish there was a UT of somebody playing aTR sax at least it would show the thing would play.

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    you'll be very surprised on how many people fall for the " bling" and the general musical instrument appearance of these " THINGS" (I purposely do not call the saxophones!), they have been fooling plenty of unaware people who generally find someone on a market flogging saxophones, clarinets, cornets, and other rubbish items as such or buy them during a trip abroad. As I said such a " thing" is a simulacrum in as much as it looks like the right thing but it isn't. For 60$ one can still make a lamp out of it for 265$ this is fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bechisbest View Post
    .......Now $275 is serious cash.In the US you could get a decent alto shipped from the UK for that money.....
    Shipping horns from the UK to the US, eh ? Nice to see the UK still has a role in the world - - why not get it direct from China and completely cut out the middle man ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmelodysax View Post
    Shipping horns from the UK to the US, eh ? Nice to see the UK still has a role in the world - - why not get it direct from China and completely cut out the middle man ?
    ...because these " things" are Indian........not Chinese, the Chinese, actually, make very good horns!

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    You might be able to hypnotize a cobra with it though, and you could make some extra cash doing street theatre.
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    But you can do that nicely with a $275 vintage soprano, too....


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    You can get a Chinese alto that's actually playable for $260, including shipping direct to your door. Check Musical Wheel.
    The Martin "Official Music Man" tenor, Barone black tenor, The Martin baritone, Richards Martin Indiana alto, cheap Chinese soprano, Metalite mouthpieces, Plasticover reeds, Nord Electro 2, bunch of other instruments
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    since we have touched the subject of Indian saxphone, how about the great sound of the Indian Saxophonists?!

    Really, they are really great , most use alto saxophone in a sitting position and it is very nicely used in Carnatic music.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w2EQ2sgtE8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLIfp...eature=channel

    Kadri Gopalnath's has charms hanging from his sax neck........an alternative to bead and weights?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7Jqmp3qrg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9URkmRq0hmY

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    Milandro - thanks for those links - fascinating
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    Quote Originally Posted by milandro View Post
    Kadri Gopalnath's has charms hanging from his sax neck........an alternative to bead and weights?
    P-ligging? Whatever happened to whatshisname?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinMusicMan View Post
    You can get a Chinese alto that's actually playable for $260, including shipping direct to your door. Check Musical Wheel.
    i hope their saxes are better than their piccolos...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinMusicMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by milandro View Post
    Kadri Gopalnath's has charms hanging from his sax neck........an alternative to bead and weights?
    P-ligging? Whatever happened to whatshisname?
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    I've been to a few music shops in Bombay, generally those saxophones are used in Indian Marching/ Wedding bands etc so are suited for that kind of stuff.


    though you might find these links useful:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manohari_Singh

    http://www.raghavsacharmusic.com

    http://www.kadrigopalnath.com

    I think they all play western saxophones, but i have seen kadri gopalnath playing an indian one too.

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    PKV Sax, I too think that any good and famous Indian sax player plays a proper
    saxophone.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjO8SFOVZM8

    Have you attempted to " play" one of these so-called saxophones? I did and they are terrible most of them not playing at all!

    Anyway, there is no doubt that some folks actually use these " instruments" like this vendor

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8cq1C_NRKc

    whether that is a good idea or not to advertise your instruments that way it is another thing altogether, btw I find this soprano a lot better than the " altos" , still just a pile of metal though

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    It seems the first guy is playing either a Cousnon or a Yamaha (hard to tell from the head on angle), and the old guy with the wiggly head, some sort of vintage American (could have been Indian, couldn't really tell, and with all the reverb, can't place tone either!).

    Quote Originally Posted by PKV Sax View Post
    I've been to a few music shops in Bombay, generally those saxophones are used in Indian Marching/ Wedding bands etc so are suited for that kind of stuff.


    though you might find these links useful:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manohari_Singh

    http://www.raghavsacharmusic.com

    http://www.kadrigopalnath.com

    I think they all play western saxophones, but i have seen kadri gopalnath playing an indian one too.
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