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			<title>P.Mauriat Le Bravo 200 VS. Jupiter 769BL</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:06:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm leaning towards the PM. 
It's sound is so much richer. When playing the Jupiter right after/before the PM it feels so thin. 
There is a punchier sound too. 
 
Also, personally I don't believe the factory stuff that people say about PM's. Of course they are made in Taiwan, but I don't believe...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm leaning towards the PM.<br />
It's sound is so much richer. When playing the Jupiter right after/before the PM it feels so thin.<br />
There is a punchier sound too.<br />
<br />
Also, personally I don't believe the factory stuff that people say about PM's. Of course they are made in Taiwan, but I don't believe there are exact replica's with different names printed on. Normally when that happens there isn't ANY advertising. And I don't see the le bravo being replicated by anyone either?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Anthonisz</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Yani A902 & P Mauriat 67R alto sax]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:45:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Just want to know what do you think about them? I'm thinking of getting either one. I've tested them and think that the PM is a little darker and sound is more spread compare to the yani. The yani is more free blowing. Thats my initial thought on them as I just have a very short time on testing...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just want to know what do you think about them? I'm thinking of getting either one. I've tested them and think that the PM is a little darker and sound is more spread compare to the yani. The yani is more free blowing. Thats my initial thought on them as I just have a very short time on testing them (a really really short time!!). So I figure out those who have experience with them will know more.<br />
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Any thought will be much appreciated.<br />
<br />
Alex</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Meyer 5m vs Dukoff D8 [Alto]]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:11:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've been playing with a Meyer 5m on my alto for some time now. A friend of mine called and told me he bought a dukoff d8 for my birthday.  
I was hoping you could tell me what to expect from this new mpc, any tips?  
 
I apologize if there's any grammar/spelling mistake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been playing with a Meyer 5m on my alto for some time now. A friend of mine called and told me he bought a dukoff d8 for my birthday. <br />
I was hoping you could tell me what to expect from this new mpc, any tips? <br />
<br />
I apologize if there's any grammar/spelling mistake.</div>

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			<dc:creator>paltrufo</dc:creator>
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			<title>MK VI vs Chinese Tenor</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:53:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was in Australia recently and had a bit of time on my hands. 
I don't like to take my MK VI on the airlines, so thought I'll buy myself 
a cheap Chinese horn (tnr) to fill in some time. 
 
I located a company near Dandenong, Melbourne advertising online 
some tenors for $539 AUD (approx $500...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was in Australia recently and had a bit of time on my hands.<br />
I don't like to take my MK VI on the airlines, so thought I'll buy myself<br />
a cheap Chinese horn (tnr) to fill in some time.<br />
<br />
I located a company near Dandenong, Melbourne advertising online<br />
some tenors for $539 AUD (approx $500 USD). This wasn't far from<br />
where I was staying so off I went to check out the horns.<br />
<br />
The first one I tried had a problem with the RH stack but the second one<br />
played fine (I had taken my own mpc with me).<br />
<br />
So I paid the bucks and took my new shiny horn back to the house where<br />
I was staying. Because there are neighbors all around I didn't want to<br />
make too much noise. So for about six weeks I would play this sax very<br />
quietly.<br />
<br />
Now back in NZ, I have had the chance to put some air through it<br />
and also compare it to the MK VI.<br />
<br />
Egonomically, the new sax is virtually identical to my Selmer. I can<br />
switch back and forth and hardly notice the difference. There are a<br />
couple of minor issues. One is the D palm key that opens quite a bit<br />
and therefore makes it easy to accidently hit the Eb palm key.<br />
Also the linkage between the low Eb and C keys makes it difficult to<br />
slide your pinky from Eb to C. I have to lift my finger and replace it.<br />
Going the other way is okay. (photos included) <br />
<br />
The tuning of the new sax when playing the LH palm keys was very sharp,<br />
but when I was able to play it louder back in NZ, this problem all but<br />
disappeared. I still find that I have to flatten these notes compared<br />
with the MK VI, but only a small amount.<br />
<br />
Sound wise the Chinese sax is more brilliant. In fact I prefer the sound<br />
<u><b>and now enjoy playing this sax more than the MK VI.</b></u><br />
<br />
I have a friend that has a very nice Martin sax that was reconditioned<br />
in Seattle. The horn is great and sounds nice but the ergonomics are<br />
a big departure from the MK VI and so I was not very comfortable<br />
playing the Martin. I could get used to it but then I would find the MK VI<br />
strange.<br />
<br />
All things considered I am really blown away by the build quality on this<br />
new Chinese sax. I had always considered my MK VI a particularly good<br />
one. Playing other MK VI's have confirmed this as have other people who<br />
have played my sax.<br />
<br />
So go figure......It seems the future for saxophone manufacturing is<br />
going to be China.<br />
<br />
MK VI<br />
<img src="http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kavala_sax/MKVIkeys.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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Chinese sax<br />
<img src="http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kavala_sax/MarqKeys.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></div>

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			<dc:creator>kavala</dc:creator>
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			<title>Jumbo Java or Bellite</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:57:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Well since its almost Christmas my mom would get me something and I'm deciding on a mouthpiece.  Right now it's between a Beechler Bellite 6/7 or a Vandoren Jumbo Java A45.  I'm looking for a mouthpiece that I can hit high notes with ease and growl on them, also not a nasally (spelling?word?)...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Well since its almost Christmas my mom would get me something and I'm deciding on a mouthpiece.  Right now it's between a Beechler Bellite 6/7 or a Vandoren Jumbo Java A45.  I'm looking for a mouthpiece that I can hit high notes with ease and growl on them, also not a nasally (spelling?word?) sound. Being used for big band and jazz combo. I got the schools C* for classical kind music.  Obviously the java is alot cheaper but mom said under $200.  Right now I'm using this modified mouthpiece that I don't know the name of.  I can hit the high notes nicely but it honks when I try to growl unless its like E3 or lower. Its not limited to just those but below $200 if you suggest anything else please.  Oh, by the way I play alto</div>

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			<dc:creator>Max S</dc:creator>
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			<title>Tenor Hite Premiere VS Selmer S80 C*?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:12:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello forum this one should be a quickie. I currently own a Selmer S80 C* MPC that I've been using mostly for classical work. While I am still experimenting with reeds, the sound I usually get tends to be too nasal or focused and for me. I also find it a bit closed which encourages bad embouchure...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello forum this one should be a quickie. I currently own a Selmer S80 C* MPC that I've been using mostly for classical work. While I am still experimenting with reeds, the sound I usually get tends to be too nasal or focused and for me. I also find it a bit closed which encourages bad embouchure habits in my case. I saw this Hite Premiere MPC on WWBW and saw many raving reviews. Knowing this is a great piece on clarinet, I come to you with one question: Does the same apply for sax? How would this compare to my C*? Would it be more open or closed in facing, would my sound get a little more color and, what other differences are there? <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.wwbw.com/J---D-Hite-Premiere-Tenor-Saxophone-Mouthpiece-462425-i1143180.wwbw" target="_blank">WWBW link to check reviews</a><br />
<br />
Thanks!</div>

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			<dc:creator>CarlHeanerd</dc:creator>
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			<title>Lebayle vs. Super Session (on soprano)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:39:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Anyone ever played these head to head? Which is darker, fuller?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Anyone ever played these head to head? Which is darker, fuller?</div>

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			<dc:creator>segaleon</dc:creator>
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			<title>Jody Jazz DVNY VS. AIZEN NY VS. MOUTHPIECE CAFE NY BROS</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>so yah i hear a lot of people say great things about both mouthpieces and i am a gear nut so i am looking for a great new mouthpiece and want to know peoples opinions on one of these mouthpiece</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>so yah i hear a lot of people say great things about both mouthpieces and i am a gear nut so i am looking for a great new mouthpiece and want to know peoples opinions on one of these mouthpiece</div>

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			<dc:creator>JackLi</dc:creator>
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			<title>Yamaha YTS-62 vs Yanagisawa T901</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:34:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My wife just bought me a YTS-62 :).  
 
While deciding what to get, I spent a while comparing options in about that price range. In particular, the YTS-62 and the T901.  
I've only been playing a couple of years so my opinions are not at all expert, but for what it's worth, here's what I thought. ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My wife just bought me a YTS-62 :). <br />
<br />
While deciding what to get, I spent a while comparing options in about that price range. In particular, the YTS-62 and the T901. <br />
I've only been playing a couple of years so my opinions are not at all expert, but for what it's worth, here's what I thought. <br />
<br />
1. Appearance: Well, they are both beautiful. Actually, I think almost all saxophones are beautiful so I'm not terribly discriminating -  not the vibrant blue ebay saxes, but anything in the standard colours looks great to me. The Yani has slightly darker lacquer which I preferred but not by much. <br />
<br />
2. Weight. The Yamaha is a little heavier. I have read that many people prefer this but hefting the weight of a tenor is a downside of playing the instrument for me (weak wrists) so for me this was a negative. Again, only a slight one. <br />
<br />
3. Keywork. Pretty similar. The key pearls on the Yani felt a bit nicer under the fingers (maybe plastic vs real? not sure I can tell and I didn't think about  looking closely/asking until after the fact). I really liked the action on both of these, but for me the Yamaha has a feeling of precision which gave it a noticeable edge over the Yani. There was a small technical problem with the T901; when going to the high G, say from an A, there was often a slight lag in the octave mechanism - I could see it hesitating - which caused some odd squeaks. At first I thought this was me but then I spotted the lag. Presumably this would be easy to fix and applied only to this specific saxophone. <br />
<br />
4. Tone. I thought the Yani was warmer in the lower register but I liked the higher notes on the Yamaha better. Overall the sound on the Yamaha seemed crisper to me - I think I've read descriptions of this being a &quot;centred&quot; or &quot;focused&quot; sound which didn't mean anything to me until I tried it. Now I understand what this means but I don't know if it's much help to anyone who hasn't heard it for themselves. <br />
<br />
The price I got on the Yamaha was about 10% cheaper than the best price I found on the Yanagisawa but this may vary from place to place. <br />
<br />
In the end I went for the Yamaha but it was not a straightforward decision and I'm sure I could have been happy with the T901. I spoke to an excellent local tech who said that from his point of view both are quality horns, but the parts for the Yamaha are easier to get which makes repairs cheaper.<br />
<br />
The things that tipped the decision for me were the overall tone and the feeling of precision in the keywork of the Yamaha.  <br />
<br />
Incidentally I also tried a Keilworth - the EX90 I think it was - and found it much too heavy, plus I didn't really like the keywork. I have been exclusively playing Asian (Taiwanese) saxophones up to now so maybe that was just a familiarity thing. I also tried a P.Mauriat - Le Bravo or something similar - which I didn't think was up to the standard of the others in terms of the action or the tone, but to be fair I think that is marketed as a student model.<br />
<br />
I also had the chance to try several different mouthpieces on the T901. I'd tried different mouthpieces before when choosing my current one (a Meyer 7M) but the experience of trying different saxophones on the same mouthpiece, followed immediately by different mouthpieces on the same saxophone, really brought home the point which I have read repeatedly about this - changing mouthpieces made MUCH more difference to the sound than changing saxophones. Changing the fleshy bit attached to the mouthpiece also made quite a difference, of course...</div>

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			<title>P Mauriat Swing 55-JX vs.Stephanhouser SAS 2000 SE</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:48:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Any opinions on this relatively new alto from P Mauriat and the discontinued Stephanhouser SAS 2000 SE alto?? 
Thanks</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Any opinions on this relatively new alto from P Mauriat and the discontinued Stephanhouser SAS 2000 SE alto??<br />
Thanks</div>

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			<dc:creator>quadgolf</dc:creator>
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			<title>martin c melody  VS Buescher TT c melody</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:42:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*martin c melody  *(# 3x,xxx) VS* Buescher TT c melody *(# 6x,xxx)  , which better :?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>martin c melody  </b>(# 3x,xxx) VS<b> Buescher TT c melody </b>(# 6x,xxx)  , which better :?</div>

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			<title>the martin vs martin stencil ?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:54:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>quality difference of both ? ,thanks</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>quality difference of both ? ,thanks</div>

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