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Steve St.Laurent
01-14-2004, 01:03 AM
I posted this in the beginners forum as well but thought I might get some soprano specific advice here.

I'm hoping I can get some help here. First a little background on me. When I was a kid I was a pretty accomplished musician. I took to it naturally. By the time I was in high school I could play every wind instrument with the exception of flute, oboe, and trombone with bassoon and sax being my specialties. I solo'd with the Oklahoma City Symphony when I was 14 and made 1st chair in every honor band I ever tried out for except my first one (where I got 3rd chair) - all that was on bassoon. I picked up sax at a band camp when they needed an additional tenor for the stage band and there wasn't anyone available. I learned tenor in 4 days (length of the band camp) and received the directors award at the concert (not because I was the best OBVIOUSLY but because of how much I had learned in 4 days). I picked up soprano for kicks one day and was able to play it easily and fell in love - played it regularly in our stage band after that. I then had a falling out with my band director when I was 17 and put my horns away and never picked up again :( - stupidest thing I've done in my entire life.

Fast forward 10 years and I was missing having music in my life. I really enjoyed sax more than any other instrument I could play and wanted to get back into it. I tossed around for a while whether to get a tenor (for the versatility) or a soprano (because I enjoyed it the most). After thinking about it for a while decided to get a soprano. I found a King Marigaux (s/n 25700) which seemed to be a very good quality horn used in a local shop and bought it. Now for the hard part. My fingers still worked well, I knew all the fingerings still, could read the music no problem, my ears still worked great - but my tongue and my embouchre obviously are horrible. The sound coming out of the horn was absolutely painful to listen to. I tried for about 2 months and just couldn't take the pain and really wasn't seeing any progress.

Here we are another 6 years down the road and I still miss music. I'd love to play the soprano again but am not sure if I have it in me. Any advice on what to do? How do I get started again? Any exercises that I could do to get in shape, etc? I can get most of the notes out (up to high C #) - just poor tonal quality. I have an SML R4 mouthpiece and am using 2 1/2 reeds. I really didn't think it was going to be this hard to pick it up as it was so easy when I was a kid. Now I realize I probably made a mistake trying to jump right to soprano and should have started with a tenor but I don't have the money to purchase another horn and think I have a good quality horn that I got for a good price. Maybe part of the problem is that the horn is out of whack and I need to get it tuned?

Any help would be greatly appreciated - I would love to have music in my life again. I'm considering selling the soprano and buying an instrument that I've never played before so that it wouldn't be so frustrating but think I'd be happiest if I could play the soprano again. Thanks in advance.

Dave Dolson
01-14-2004, 09:51 PM
Steve: Welcome back. Firt off, I'd have the soprano checked over by a tech to ensure it is tight and regulated. That horn should play.

Then, I'd explore a better mouthpiece while at the same time concentrating on long tones on the mouthpiece you already have (to develop your embouchure and the ability to play a stable note). Different reeds (brands and strengths) may also aid this process.

Soprano chops take a while to develop, but if your inner voice is soprano, I'd advise against getting rid of it merely because your firsat steps were faltering. Good luck. DAVE (48 years on sop)

pknight
01-14-2004, 11:50 PM
Also, try the mouthpiece exercise described by Paul Coats somewhere in his articles here on SOTW. You blow a C# on a soprano piece, and your embouchre should be close to what you need.

Steve St.Laurent
01-15-2004, 02:46 AM
I found that article this morning and downloaded the soprano midi file. When I read the article (someone recommended it in another post) I recalled exercises with just the mouthpiece when I was first learning (23 years ago) - and also remembered that I didn't like it when I was 11 :wink: . So I gave it a shot and at first man was it horrible sounding!! After 5 minutes or so I had a fairly stable note with just the mouthpiece, I then put it on the horn and my tone was much improved. I could at least stomach listening to myself :) ! I'm going to do that exercise for the first 5 or 10 minutes of each practice session, I can tell it will make a huge difference. What should I look for in a mouthpiece being a beginner again? When I bought the horn I was going to buy a different mouthpiece but the music shop recommended that I play with the one on the horn for at least 6 months to a year before I switched. At this point I wouldn't really know what to look for to be honest. When I played before I used Berg Larsen mpc's but I can't recall what size/shape. Thanks for the advice - I think I'm off to the races! 8)

Dave Dolson
01-15-2004, 04:35 AM
There were soprano saxophone mouthpieces in THE FAR SIDE?!?! DAVE

Steve St.Laurent
01-15-2004, 05:02 AM
Oops - brain fart ;) . I meant Berg Larsen - fixed that.