"Ask Tim Price" thread?

[Ken]

Moderators, is it possible to set up such a thread for those who might have questions specifically for Tim about his SOTW studies, playing, practising, etc? There may be certain issues like the amount of questions etc, but I thought it worthwhile suggesting.

What do other people think?

[CircaRevival]

I like the idea, I have just gotten into some of Mr. Price's material here on SOTW. Great stuff!

[Harri Rautiainen]

Moderators, is it possible to set up such a thread for those who might have questions specifically for Tim about his SOTW studies, playing, practising, etc? There may be certain issues like the amount of questions etc, but I thought it worthwhile suggesting.

What do other people think?I will check with Tim, if he's got the time to answer the questions.

Thanks for your suggestion,

[martysax]

I'm awaiting the availability of a "Virtual Tim" desktop assistant for Windows XP.

Any thoughts Seattle?

[Ken]

LOL. I'll ask Bill.

[Gandalfe]

I'm awaiting the availability of a "Virtual Tim" desktop assistant for Windows XP.

Any thoughts Seattle?It's probably a no go. But I think Mr. Clippy might still be available around here somewhere. 8-)

[txsphere]

.....provided your willing to help pay his rent. Remember he has invested alot of time and money into accumulating all that knowledge and now he's gotta feed himself off it. Not to mention the bucks that guy must spend on reeds.

[LarryG]

.....provided your willing to help pay his rent. Remember he has invested alot of time and money into accumulating all that knowledge and now he's gotta feed himself off it. Not to mention the bucks that guy must spend on reeds.

Right On. But I doubt he pays for reeds. If I were him, I wouldn't.

To the OTHERS: Think before you speak...I have said that before here. Don't be upset if Tim asks for payment for his services. He should, AND OR WE SHOULD ALL BUY his lessons, AND his music. He has given us extremely qualified free advice for sometime now, (who hasn't downloaded and USED his free lessons, I doubt there are very many. I use some of his lessons, EVERY PRACTICE SESSION), and I am sure that it gets overwhelming to him with the amount of free advice requested at times (over 10,000 members now?). Here's a guy who has never been materialistic, and is one of the best SHARERS OF HARD LEARNED MUSIC LESSONS on the planet, but when it comes time to feed the bulldog, you gotta do what you gotta do. Tim is an important investment we ALL need to make. Make this guy feel at home here folks, this guy has been paying it forward for some time now for all of us.

Most of us earn our living from other sources than the music industry, and although all industries are becoming, lets just say, more complicated, the music business is at best, trying, on ones patience and wallet. Most of the rest of the "givers" on this site sell mouthpieces, horns, and many other "supplies" to a highly qualified database of potential customers. The difference is that Tim has really never tried to SELL anything. This is not to imply that the other "givers" are bad, most are not, and most are highly legitamate, but they make no bones about their products availability, and we reward them with business, and the profits of which keep them coming back and contributing.

When I have a "customer" who is constantly asking me to help him understand his business, understand the products that we sell, train his salespeople to sell the products, use up my selling time, and fill out long price quotes for his business, but I never get the order......guess what I say to him? PLEASE CALL SOMEONE ELSE.

Respectfully Yours
Larry Geiger

[fballatore]

I'm awaiting the availability of a "Virtual Tim" desktop assistant for Windows XP.

Any thoughts Seattle?
The upcoming Windows Vista (Windows XP upgrade) will include a feature called gadgets, which are little applets that sit on your desktop - Virtual Tim would be perfect for that!

Frank

[tjontheroad]

I bet Tim would be honored to have is own thread. Maybe a bit freaked out to have his virtual self on your desktop :shock: :D

Would a Tim Price thread be payment enough in PR value. Could be. I agree, reeds don't pay the bills. A great PR campaign will.

[gary]

Would a Tim Price thread be payment enough in PR value. Could be. I agree, reeds don't pay the bills. A great PR campaign will....just something to think about - PR is good to attract people to your gigs and/or to sell whatever you have to sell - books, recordings, etc.

Maybe if he's lucky, as a result of this PR, two or three people from SPTW might show up at a couple of his gigs here or there. And if a "Tim" thread replaces SOTW members' purchasing materials and lessons from him, that might not be much of a trade off.

He's the Man, of course and it's whatever he wants. I'm only posting here because I've seen it recently where someone posted a well-intentioned suggestion about a SOTWer and it only put that SOTWer in an uncomfortable position; i.e. needing to reject a seemingly nice idea without seeming, at the same time, ungrateful for the honour, and I wouldn't want to see Tim put in a similar position.

[Mike Ruhl]

How about an "Ask Gary" thread?

:twisted:

[gary]

How about an "Ask Gary" thread?:twisted:LOL. Twisted IS a good choice for your "smiley". You're a sick man. :shock:

[Saxhound]

How about an "Ask Gary" thread?

:twisted:

That would certainly change the betting odds on the 10,000th post lottery!

[Carl H.]

Borrowing from Red Green, maybe we need an ask the experts section featuring Gary and Martysax .

[Mike Ruhl]

Remember, we're all in this together!

[Tryptykon]

Right On. But I doubt he pays for reeds. If I were him, I wouldn't.

To the OTHERS: Think before you speak...I have said that before here. Don't be upset if Tim asks for payment for his services. He should, AND OR WE SHOULD ALL BUY his lessons, AND his music. He has given us extremely qualified free advice for sometime now, (who hasn't downloaded and USED his free lessons, I doubt there are very many. I use some of his lessons, EVERY PRACTICE SESSION), and I am sure that it gets overwhelming to him with the amount of free advice requested at times (over 10,000 members now?). Here's a guy who has never been materialistic, and is one of the best SHARERS OF HARD LEARNED MUSIC LESSONS on the planet, but when it comes time to feed the bulldog, you gotta do what you gotta do. Tim is an important investment we ALL need to make. Make this guy feel at home here folks, this guy has been paying it forward for some time now for all of us.

Most of us earn our living from other sources than the music industry, and although all industries are becoming, lets just say, more complicated, the music business is at best, trying, on ones patience and wallet. Most of the rest of the "givers" on this site sell mouthpieces, horns, and many other "supplies" to a highly qualified database of potential customers. The difference is that Tim has really never tried to SELL anything. This is not to imply that the other "givers" are bad, most are not, and most are highly legitamate, but they make no bones about their products availability, and we reward them with business, and the profits of which keep them coming back and contributing.

When I have a "customer" who is constantly asking me to help him understand his business, understand the products that we sell, train his salespeople to sell the products, use up my selling time, and fill out long price quotes for his business, but I never get the order......guess what I say to him? PLEASE CALL SOMEONE ELSE.

Respectfully Yours
Larry Geiger

Nothing I can add to this concise,measured well-thought out post except that I agree 1000% VERY appropo.:D

[Pete]

Right On. But I doubt he pays for reeds. If I were him, I wouldn't.

To the OTHERS: Think before you speak...I have said that before here. Don't be upset if Tim asks for payment for his services. He should, AND OR WE SHOULD ALL BUY his lessons, AND his music. He has given us extremely qualified free advice for sometime now, (who hasn't downloaded and USED his free lessons, I doubt there are very many. I use some of his lessons, EVERY PRACTICE SESSION), and I am sure that it gets overwhelming to him with the amount of free advice requested at times (over 10,000 members now?). Here's a guy who has never been materialistic, and is one of the best SHARERS OF HARD LEARNED MUSIC LESSONS on the planet, but when it comes time to feed the bulldog, you gotta do what you gotta do. Tim is an important investment we ALL need to make. Make this guy feel at home here folks, this guy has been paying it forward for some time now for all of us.

Most of us earn our living from other sources than the music industry, and although all industries are becoming, lets just say, more complicated, the music business is at best, trying, on ones patience and wallet. Most of the rest of the "givers" on this site sell mouthpieces, horns, and many other "supplies" to a highly qualified database of potential customers. The difference is that Tim has really never tried to SELL anything. This is not to imply that the other "givers" are bad, most are not, and most are highly legitamate, but they make no bones about their products availability, and we reward them with business, and the profits of which keep them coming back and contributing.

When I have a "customer" who is constantly asking me to help him understand his business, understand the products that we sell, train his salespeople to sell the products, use up my selling time, and fill out long price quotes for his business, but I never get the order......guess what I say to him? PLEASE CALL SOMEONE ELSE.

Respectfully Yours
Larry Geiger
Don't get me started.

The only thing I've ever claimed to be an expert on in the sax world is collecting pictures. I'm also relatively good at saying something like, "Gee, this 10M and that 10M look a little different. I wonder if this difference started at a certain serial number ...."

Yes, I also have a partial list of saxophone values in my head, too. This means I get a lot of e-mails about "how much is X worth"?

I have shared some of my knowledge here and on the SOTW main page in the past and I have gotten very little return, in terms of $, on that investment. However, I'm not offering info because I want to be rich.

I do it because of the babes.

Just kidding, honey! Really!

Anyhow, Mr. Price is good enough to share some of his knowledge on this Forum and that's enough for me. He's also written a few articles for the main page. Gravy. If he wishes to submit to be the "moderator" of his own thread, great.

Just remember not to go too nuts if he says "no" And do note there are other "super sax luminaries" that post here, too.

[larry]

Just to add my $0.02 - I bought some of Mr. Price's excellent "for sale" lessons and he was very responsive to me in private emails regarding some questions I had about it. Like the other LarryG said - understand that teaching is how he puts food on the table for his family - I appreicate all the stuff that provides for free but I also recognize that I should be willing to pay for some of the more in-depth expertise that he has to offer.

[martysax]

Borrowing from Red Green, maybe we need an ask the experts section featuring Gary and Martysax .

:D

[kcp]

:D

No... I'd say more like: :yikes!:



;)

[martysax]

No... I'd say more like: :yikes!:



;)

:x






;)

[kcp]

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt your feelings :(

;)

[Tim Price]

First off- I like this idea. I think it can work.

"Virtual Tim"...man. That had me laughing pretty hard. :toothy10: :toothy7: :toothy7: :toothy7:
I can just see it, now...but more in a movie. lol. But if "Virtual Tim" became a movie we'd have to get Dennis Hopper to play me. And- hire John Gilmore as a consultant.
( Maybe a soundtrack by Peter Loeb & Hal galper too ?? )
We could teach Hopper to play saxophone, get him a stritch,maybe Yamaha would let him endorse a bassoon. But ahhhhhhh.....let me get back on track.
< or was I on track??:;) :laughing: >

BUT,,

I think it could be a help to those with " certain" questions. Yes.
I'm going to consult with Harri, to see a way to do_this_with certain guide lines, and so it does not get to be something to complex.
I'd like it to be...right in the forum....so others could benfit from the exchange & knowledge.

For those looking for a personal, immediate more of a consultation/ advise thing I do offer this; http://www.timpricejazz.com/phoneconsultations.html
For of a more- personal touch for the saxophonist looking to understood the oblique sense of the creative impulse we all strive for.8-) I'll be there for _you_as well.

VIA SOTW ,,
This can work. Keep in mind I don't keep a 9 to 5 life.
Somedays I'm not near a computer or carry my lap top because of travel.
Also, lately my mother is 77, lives close and I've been taking her back & forth with some doctors because of what ?? seems ?? like " minears disease"
though...it seems it is but it isn't.:? :( So,, some of my " time" is dealing with that. Ya can't imagine my frustration...as my mom is my only realitive left that I'm close to.

Point being, we'll have to set some solid rules and guidelines between Harri & myself only. I got some ideas. Lets give me some time to get this right for all, and my " busy season" is starting to with gigs and a Dutch friend that I'm being a taxi driver to 'round my turf in Pa.:D :D 8-)

I got some ideas. I'll try to ignite with interest this idea for everyone.
I'll keep ya'll posted- thru me and my man Harri.

Lastly...I do pay for reeds.:shock: Larry is one of my cool students and a serious human being. As is Brassnaked.The respect from Tryptykon:cat: has been more than I can explain, in spirit in many ways!! And of couse tjontheroad and others. Great friends too. More than expected.
The kind words and sincerity is of paramount importance in a world / life style /profession where paying for reeds is a minor thing. To be a musician in this time period_MOST_have no idea that guys like myself HAVE to provide their own health insurance,med stuff and prescriptions.
This country cuts no slack for guys that can
play " Mustang Sally" or " Giant Steps" for a living. lol~ I'm not a complainer but the grim reality is just that. In one sense, I'm lucky. I love what I'm doing and as I said many times before " it's my choice". To have the _HONOR_to know Artie Shaw & Charles Lloyd ( my childhood heros btw, who have given me the respect and friendship which _can't_be bought. ) as well as being to play with guys from Bill Doggett to Butch Morris, or Ike Turner to Lew Tabackin. To get a hug from Bob Weir, and have him signify me on stage the way he did/does showed me that " my path" was the right choice.
( not to forget Rachel Z and Claire, Sweet Sue and C.D.:) )

I'm not in this boat alone, any pro is well aware of the " facts" I speak of.Even the guys on NBC SNL are dealing with the SOS. So,, that's the way it is. No profession is a cake walk.

But I got a secret weapon!!! THE MUSIC :)
I love what I'm doing and it's my committment.

So I'll get with Harri, try to keep this so all can benfit and remember if I don't get to this/or a thread it only means I'm not around the computer.
Maybe ( i'm serious here too ) Kim could draw a cool " ask Tim Price" header for the part of the group I'm doing. Kim is a great , great artist and the R. Crumb of the saxophone world imho. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE HER ART.

Looking forward to it. Thanks again everyone.:)
PS~ LARRY....
COOL IT WITH THE FONTS !!! HaHahA- lol...[/ :blob: :hello2: :headbang: :

One last thing...my TimPriceJazz translation man & messenger/ cool player Mike S did a nice translation from German to English of my SONIC article.
Read it here;
http://www.timpricejazz.com/articles/sonictranslation.pdf

Also it came out in Dutch and Vol.2 is out now!!! look for it.
Plus- some more coming. ( I'm lucky- plus want to develop Europe more)

[tophatsax]

Thanks Tim, you are a class act!

(Now, when are you coming to play in Cincinnati?)

[Bill Mecca]

Tim has always been the giving sort, but why does it seem that some people want to take advantage of that? He came up with the lessons, made them available free here. If you want more in depth, open the wallet and pay the man!

life ain't a free ride.

Personally, I don't think Tim should be put under any pressure to answer in a public forum, unless he wants to.

If you have a question, post it, if Tim can or wants to answer I'm sure he will, and others may post responses to that question as well. And as we all know, as gifted as good teachers are, each player is an individual and certain explanations might just click, and don't be surprised if on occasion that explanation is not from the creator of the material.

I may get flamed or criticized for this, but Tim has gone out of his way to help other musicians and sax players, but they always want more. I think its fine if Tim wants to do it, but he has always made his email address public, you can PM him thru the forum, but that man has given enough.

[Dr G]

I'm somewhere in the middle...

I agree that Tim should not be pressured to do this. He has, indeed, been a tremendous resource already - especially the wealth of info and exercises that he has already posted. Much as I love to see his contributions, I find it difficult to imagine what he is going to post in Tim's Corner that won't be encroaching on what he would otherwise be getting paid for - either from in-person or on-line lessons.

Gear? Gads, what a time sink that would be.

Revelations and interviews with other great players? Read his website - there's a LOT out there.

I'd like to see Cookin' with Tim - what's the best Philly Cheesesteak, or where to eat on the road...

Love ya, Tim. Whatever you do is bound to be inspiring but look out for #1 first.

[JMac]

...I'd like to see Cookin' with Tim - what's the best Philly Cheesesteak, or where to eat on the road... Yeah - I'd like to see him in a reverse Emeril format. As opposed to Emeril telling Doc to take him out with some music... I'd like to se a show where Tim says - hey, here's a great recipe for spicey crawfish - Emeril, why don't you whip it up for us while me, Terry, Rachel, Bobby and Scott jam out to Angel Eyes....8-)

[tophatsax]

I'd like to see Cookin' with Tim - what's the best Philly Cheesesteak, or where to eat on the road...

Love ya, Tim. Whatever you do is bound to be inspiring but look out for #1 first.

Yeah - I'd like to see him in a reverse Emeril format. As opposed to Emeril telling Doc to take him out with some music... I'd like to se a show where Tim says - hey, here's a great recipe for spicey crawfish - Emeril, why don't you whip it up for us while me, Terry, Rachel, Bobby and Scott jam out to Angel Eyes....8-)

Hey, you guys are onto something. Two of my favorite things - saxophones and cooking! :D 8-)

[Tim Price]

I'm somewhere in the middle...snip //I'd like to see Cookin' with Tim - what's the best Philly Cheesesteak, or where to eat on the road..Love ya, Tim. Whatever you do is bound to be inspiring but look out for #1 first.

Dear G' , I'LL NEVER BEAT " pats" BUT HEY, CHECK THIS;:thumbrig: :tongue8:


Philly Cheesesteak

Ingredients:
1/2 pound Rib Eye, frozen, then cut very thin
1/2 Onion
Provolone Cheese or Cheese Whiz
2 Hoagie Rolls
Directions:

Ask your butcher. You need him to partially freeze a hunk of Rib Eye, and then slice it very thin. You want it sliced thin even though common sense tells us that thick is better. You can buy the hunk of rib eye and freeze and slice it yourself, but the butcher generally does a better job than I do. I can only get it about 1/8" thick.

Bread This is the hard part. If you aren't in the Tristate area, and can't get AMOROSOS rolls (the only thing that is REALLY good on a cheesesteak) then you have to find a substitute. Squishy sub rolls will NOT do. They do not hold together under pressure. Refrain from buying those "hero" rolls too.French bread is cool-The perfection of this eludes many,, and forever remain out of reach.Not as good as the real thing, but hey, beggars can't be choosers.

Toppings:personal choice. I like fried onions myself, lots of them. Cheeses used vary - I hate to admit it but I think cheese whiz tastes the best.
Cooking the steak: In a cast iron frying pan, or a grill pan heat some oil. Saute toppings until pliable - make them however you like them. Remove them from pan and set aside. Pour some more oil in the pan ( use olive oil ) on medium high heat.
Place 1/4 to 1/3 of a pound of meat in the pan, lying the pieces flat and overlapping to form a shape that will fit nicely in a bun. When the meat turns gray with doneness, flip it over and if you are using cheese slices now is the time to lie them on top of the meat. Add the other toppings back into the pan next to the meat and allow to reheat. Cover the pan to allow the cheese to melt. This should take 1-2 minutes. If the meat looks overcooked, that's OK - it should be GRAY. If you are using cheese whiz, warm it in the microwave. Pick up meat and melted cheese with a spatula and deposit on the roll. IF using cheese whiz, use a butter knife to smear whiz next to the meat. ( in Philly, the knife might be something personal, somewhere between cooking rationalizations and a ill-chosen course of action,, but back on track!:D )

Push the meat on one side of the roll and deposit the toppings next to it. This is important because if you put the toppings ON the meat, they will not be in the bottom of the sandwich, which really is a no-no.
You should get meat, toppings and cheese in every bite.

Ready in 30 minutes!!!

THE BEST MUSIC FOR THIS IS-

JIMMY SMITH....WITH STANLEY T.
" MIDNIGHT SPECIAL".

Enjoy~8-)

[gary]

Damn, I'm hungry!!

Stop it, Tim!

It's 19:30ish here and being the good musician that I am, I didn't eat breakfast until 12:30. So I'm sitting here hungering for, er, "lunch" I guess, trying to finish some things up before I eat and you did THIS! :Rant:

Bye. Gotta go see what's in the fridge.

(Man, I hope at least it's something.)

[tophatsax]

Cheese Whiz
Who'd a thunk it?:dontknow:

[Tim Price]

Damn, I'm hungry!!
Stop it, Tim!
It's 19:30ish here and being the good musician that I am, I didn't eat breakfast until 12:30. So I'm sitting here hungering for, er, "lunch" I guess, trying to finish some things up before I eat and you did THIS! :Rant:
Bye. Gotta go see what's in the fridge.
(Man, I hope at least it's something.)


GARY- THINK ABOUT IT....YUM, Vanilla French Toast!!!
1 loaf French bread or Texas Toast (remove crusts, 1-1/2 inch slices)
3-5 apples, peeled, cored and sliced
3 1/2 cups milk*
10 eggs
2 T. vanilla extract
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup sugar + 2 T. cinnamon + 1 t. nutmeg


Coat a 9 x 13 glass pan with non-stick cooking spray. Place two layers of bread in bottom - this should nearly fill the pan. Mix eggs, milk *( I use 1 cup non-fat vanilla creamer, 1 cup non-fat cream and 1 1/2 cups milk), vanilla and sugar. Pour half over bread layers. Peel, core and slice apples. Place on bread. Cover with remaining milk/egg mixture. Sprinkle with sugar/cinnamon/nutmeg.
Cover and refrigerate overnight. Cook 1 hour at 325-350 degrees. Let stand a few minutes before cutting.

Best music for this is;
Lou Donaldson
" Fried Buzzard " onBlueNote records.
Or-if its early " Bird W/ Strings".

My one student Mojo Alto ( ask Chrissy ) is coming
over later with Coconut shrimp and we are having " Tim-tinis".Thaz a martini. With Grey Goose Orange and instead of vermouth use Grand Marnier , just a splash. Oh man, decicious with the shrimp.
By then- I'll be ready for Ornette & Dewey playing some stuff too.;)

[Dr G]

See? There is something that hasn't been discussed to death and that you won't hear from anybody other than Tim.

Tim, I still owe you some red chile powder and a recipe for eggplant adovado. It's one of those things that keeps me up at night sometimes. We just moved and I don't even know where some of my horns are. When the boxes clear, I'll dig out that recipe and go to the farmer's market for some fresh chile.

Gads, man. Jimmy Smith and Stanley Turrentine - the only thing that competes with that is Shirley Scott and Stanley Turrentine. But that's another meal...

[RickBusarow]

Cheese WhizWho'd a thunk it?:dontknow:I agree. But apparently, that's how Pat's does it too. I've never had a cheesesteak without provolone. I guess I'd come to think that provolone was the official cheesesteak cheese. But if Pat's doesn't use provolone, and Tim doesn't necessarily use provolone - well, I don't know what to think anymore. :?

I'm so confused and hungry...

[Tim Price]

See? There is something that hasn't been discussed to death and that you won't hear from anybody other than Tim.Tim, I still owe you some red chile powder and a recipe for eggplant adovado. It's one of those things that keeps me up at night sometimes. We just moved and I don't even know where some of my horns are. When the boxes clear, I'll dig out that recipe and go to the farmer's market for some fresh chile.
Gads, man. Jimmy Smith and Stanley Turrentine - the only thing that competes with that is Shirley Scott and Stanley Turrentine. But that's another meal...

G- red chile powder!! don't hold out on me. hahaha. I'll get ballastic DON'T FORGET -.:lol: :lol: :toothy10:

But- really - you got the Shirley Scott stuff " Queen Of The Organ" ??
Or that one BlueNote where Stanley plays" Yours Is My Heart Alone ".
Your talking my roots now.
A few years back,, in center city Philly,, I was the proud saxist that kicked off - A TRIBUTE TO SHIRLEY SCOTT !! I had the Budessa Bros on B3 and guitar,,and the dynamic and :shaking2: vibrant Len Bryant on drums and vocals. ( YUP- Len is Rays brother- and quite the cool guy on vocals too )
My buddy Tryptykon- was there and heard it all. He rode shotgun with me.We even went to PATS after the concert in center city Philly. All the cats were there, Julian Pressly- the Philly alto player who played w/ Illinois, Dylan Taylor, Charlie Rice the great drummer who played w/ Chet. A real " cast o' characters".
I think he got drasticaly affected by Lens abiltys as a groovemaster.Your never the same after Len gets going.8-)
But,, It was a tribute to Shirley.
Joey D's dad was playing. And- Bootsie Barnes and I were having a ball playing with him too. Tho' imho- nobody but Don Patterson came close to Shirley when in those up tempos. Shirley smoked~@$
Man , I loved her. WHAT AN INSPIRATION.
Her and Trudy Pitts were my muthas' of B3 Groove in those Philly daze of night to night gigs and even afternoon gigs too. I used to play " The Pier" for brunch on Sundays with Trudy Pitts and Mr C.
Shirley Scott- Whew what a great great education I got being with her.

[Bill Mecca]

Cheese with, inside out.

[Dr G]

G- red chile powder!! don't hold out on me. hahaha. I'll get ballastic DON'T FORGET -.:lol: :lol: :toothy10:

You're on. Just don't use the lil' cryin' icons if/when you hurt yourself. :shock: :D

[gary]

Hold the curtain!I think the moderators should move this to the new Tim Price Forum area.

[Tim Price]

Hold the curtain!I think the moderators should move this to the new Tim Price Forum area.


I want a Kim cartoon logo - :)

I'm telling you...if I had a budget for a CD cover someday. I'd ask Kim to do something. She rocks as a cartoonist. And artist.
Take my word- if I had a budget on a CD project-she'd be my #1 choice.

But,, Gary arn't you supposed to be eating???:shock: :shock: :!:
Mmmmmmmmm....hahaha.

[gary]

But,, Gary arn't you supposed to be eating???:shock: :shock: :!: Mmmmmmmmm....hahaha.
LOL. It's burning in the kitchen even as we speak. ;)

[tophatsax]

LOL. It's burning in the kitchen even as we speak. ;)
Yea, but WHAT IS IT?! and what are you LISTENING to?

[Dr G]

I want a Kim cartoon logo - :)

I'm telling you...if I had a budget for a CD cover someday. I'd ask Kim to do something. She rocks as a cartoonist. And artist.
Take my word- if I had a budget on a CD project-she'd be my #1 choice.

RIP Leo Meiersdorff... The lost art of ALBUM covers...

[LarryG]

THE BEST MUSIC FOR THIS IS-

JIMMY SMITH....WITH STANLEY T.
" MIDNIGHT SPECIAL".

Enjoy~8-)

I think I darm(tim-ism)near soiled my pants on the posts Tim, but the above was the best. For the time that Stanley spent in Phila, I'm sure he had to have had a "Tony Luke's" Cheese Steak at Front and Oregon. My personal Favourite. Or a Cheese Steak Sub from that place in Norristown, I can't remember the name, but....OH YEAH its Pudge's! Very fitting name. Just the right amount of mayo. lol BUT THE ROLL IS THE KEY. I owe you a jar of BC Olives for the good humour you gave me today!

One Question...Fries or Onion Rings?

[Tim Price]

RIP Leo Meiersdorff... The lost art of ALBUM covers...


How about the Gil Melle' covers on prestige and bluenote??
I assume Gary is still chewing??

[LarryG]

Tim, you have GOTTA come down to AC sometime with me and play with cousin Bonnie on the B3 she has. They should have one in every jazz club as far as I am concerned.

ALSO, I want to change the time that I come for lessons, man....we can't drink too much at lunchtime! I'll bring the drink fixins, AND some sushi from Sakana's, my LITTLE secret in South Jersey. Hey, let's have a LOCAL Tim Price's students party with.....shhh.:silent: :silent: :silent:

By the way, if you need help with the taxi duties, remember, I drive over 25,000 miles per year.....AND my OTHER car is cool, although the truck is cool too

[Ken]

A couple of other thoughts:
-This could be done on a trial basis and discontinued if it doesn't work out
-Obviously it should be a win-win situation for everyone. With regard to compensation, maybe have a "Ask the Experts" forum and the first thread there could say something like "Important: Read this First" and it could talk about the issues discussed above e.g. that the moderater is not being compensated, or not much, and anyone who has benefited from the service purchase one of the moderator's products, perhaps using a certain code like "SOTW". Also maybe mention that the continuation of the service is dependant on such purchases.

Just thoughts.

[gary]

I assume Gary is still chewing?? Guilty as charged. I've been masticating while you all have been carrying on.

Yea, but WHAT IS IT?! and what are you LISTENING to?The truth? A typical German :salute: dinner: Teriyaki chicken :duckie: (slightly burned), Hinode rice, a salad and some tropical fruit. Topped off with a glass of maricuja juice and a double espresso with a Shiroi Koibito chocolate biscuit.

...and not a thing made from scratch. :D


To the accompaniment of the Copeland and Mozart Clarinet Concertos (but not at the same time.)


...all alone. :cry:

[Tim Price]

BACK TO MUSIC-

This I got from my webmaster Mike Korch- Who speaking of Berklee has been accepted to Berklee with a nice financial endowment from the school to boot. I'm very proud of him and he is one of my many students suceeding that are private students of mine whether in New York or Pennsylvania that are comming through the ranks strong. Getting a scholarship is no easy job - I think everybody on this forum should applaude him for not only maintaining my website, but being an upstanding young student to boot.
What kid this age has had the environ to be around Bill Goodwin from Phils band, Allison Miller or party with Lew Tabackin and talk jazz with Rachel Z. Those are life lessons- stuff that IS NOT in books.Similar to my friendships with Sal Nistico or Charlie Rouse and Pat Martino etc etc. STUFF THAT IS NOT IN BOOKS. Very important to the lifeblood of this music-art form.

In any case the below article he got from "Berklee Today" about one of my inspirations and teachers while at Berklee. Who still in contact with me and still is one of my very best friends. Andy McGhee is somebody everyone on this forum might have heard of one way or another. His books on saxophone help shape my mind as a teenager way before I saw anything else. He also is one heck of a tenor player and somebody who Ken McIntyre described to me as back in the day in Boston when andy was going to New England Conservatory was a cutting edge player ready for anyone from Stitt to Trane. The story below is enlightening about Andy. He also mentions yours truely in a very respectful fashion. And yes, he did kick my backside as a seventeen year old but once I got out in the world, and realized theres no second chances or no shortcuts like he would tell us everyday, I spiritually thanked him for it when I was able to make a living with my horn. Andy is a no nonsense player and has the attack of a Sal Nestico or Johnny Griffin. On the bandstand he'll get in somebody's face musically and not let go. After all, this is a man that not only taught the players he mentioned in this article, but also taught Cecil Taylor. Enjoy it, and have a nice weekend everybody.



Berklee Today

Volume 17 Number 3

Spring 2006



Andy McGhee: You Gotta Be Able To Do It

Faculy Profile

by Jim Sullivan



Seated in his office at the 1140 Boylston Street building, Professor Emeritus Andy McGhee takes out a faded, crumpling piece of yellowed paper. It’s a telegram addressed to the saxophonist that reads, “Please call PL1-7070, Area code 212 regarding your availability for Count Basie Orchestra.”

This telegram, which the fit, 78-year-old McGhee intends to finally frame, is part of his lore. See, he had always recalled it arriving as early as 1965, before he changed course, moving off the road with the likes of Lionel Hampton and Woody Herman and taking up residence to teach at what was the Berklee School of Music. But examining it reveals that the missive came late in 1966, and so after handling a couple of smaller local teaching gigs, McGhee was already at Berklee when the offer for the prestigious road gig with Basie came in. But McGhee elected to stay put.

Biggest decision of his life? “Oh, yeah,” says McGhee, clad in his trademark sweater on this cold January day. “I had a family, two daughters, and a wife. These were terrible times with the busing in Boston. My family lived in West Roxbury, and it was time for me to stay home.”

McGhee was part of a small crew of teaching musicians at Berklee, and he sometimes taught 35 hours a week. McGhee praises Berklee founder Larry Berk as “someone who cared for you as a musician and as a human being.” He recalls Berk asking him if he rented his house and advising him to buy rather than throw money out the window. “Larry was a good businessperson who had a passion for music,” says McGhee. “He was interested in ways I could make some money.” Berk also encouraged McGhee to write educational books.

At 17, McGhee came to Boston from North Carolina in 1945 to study at New England Conservatory of Music. This temporarily spared him from serving in the Armed Forces but in 949, a year after his graduation, he was drafted. He played with the U.S. Army training band in New Jersey and later spent six months in Korea. He married his wife, Constance, in 1950 and returned to Boston in 1952 to play with a variety of outfits—sometimes seven nights a week—working primarily with a group led by Fat Man Robinson. From there, it was on to the Lionel Hampton and Woody Herman bands. “The best part about playing with Lionel,” says McGhee, “was that he taught me that once you came to the bandstand, you played your best whether there were 50,000 or five people out there.”

McGhee says that Woody Herman head him play eight bars and decided to bring him into his band. He did not consider race an issue, which unfortunately it often was back then. Herman, in fact, told McGhee (the only African American in his band at the time) that if he encountered any racial issues when they were on the road, he should bring them to his attention. There were only two times it happened, and Herman dealt promptly with the issues on both occasions.

Asked to recall some of his students at Berklee, McGhee mentions Greg Osby, Javon Jackson, Bill Pierce, Antonio Hart, Tim Price, Ralph Moore, and others. “There are so many,” he says. “I’m proud of them all.” McGhee has kept a few letters from former students, including one from Tim Price thanking him for “kicking my backside.”

When McGhee, who also plays flute and clarinet, came to Berklee, he joined a prestigious staff of horn players-turned-teachers. McGhee taught full time for 33 years, now he teaches only on Tuesdays for six hours, directing one ensemble and teaching private lessons to eight students.

The highlight of McGhee’s nonteaching career may well be The Golden Men of Jazz tour he did with Hampton, Harry “Sweets” Edison, Clark Terry, Benny Bailey, Al Grey, and Benny Golson in the early 1990s. “It was mellow, relaxed, no headaches. We flew first class, and we made some money,” he recalls.

These days, music remains the main thing for McGhee. “Teaching keeps me up to date and around good players,” he says. “If you’re going to be a teacher and talk about something all day, you gotta be able to do it.”

Even though he’s been a widower since 1986 and his children live out of state, McGhee still enjoys living in Boston, citing the restaurants, the changing seasons, the proximity to the water, the culture, and the good orchestras. He still plays the occasional gig and bemoans hip-hop’s influence on contemporary music. McGhee says he lives a pretty busy—and if I may infer—happy life shifting between golf and jazz.

In commemoration of McGhee’s long and dedicated service to the college and the impact he has had on his students through the years, the Andy McGhee Endowed Scholarship has been established. The fund was kicked off with a $10k gift from Walter Beasley that was matched by a $10k gift from President Rodger Brown and his wife Linda Mason. Others have donated as well, bringing the current the total to $60k. Of the scholarships, McGhee says, “I feel honored,” noting that a partial scholarship to New England Conservatory was essential to his own education.

Anyone wishing to contribute can make checks payable to Berklee College of Music with a note designating it for the Andy McGhee fund. Mail checks to David McKay, Berklee College of Music, 1140 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02215.

[martysax]

[QUOTE=gary]Guilty as charged. I've been masticating while you all have been carrying on.QUOTE]

Gary gets a Cheese-Schnitzel. That's Cheez Whiz on your Schnitzel.

Tim, did you ever have our "steak and cheese" subs at Santoros while you were in Bahsten? I believe Gary masticated a few while here as well.

My College roommate, a Main-Liner, refused to eat a local steak and cheese. He would always douse it with pizza sauce.

[gary]

Hey Tim, thanks for the article on Andy. I met him three years ago in Italy and he was really friendly and helpful. I was a bit surprised to read the take-no-prisoners attitude attributed to him above. You wouldn't know that from his demeanor when we were chatting.

I was in a sax master class and, sadly, I was the only one in the room who knew who Andy was when he came in. On the other hand it was to my advantage because I was able to chat with him a while alone. Nice man.