Selmer Signet alto information?

[SaxParent]

What can you tell me about this model? Where can I find serial number chart for this item? :?

Serial number 469XXX...what age? With Brithart 3 mpc what kind of setup is this? A vintage beginner horn? What kind of tone and intonation can be expected if anyone has experience? Any idea on value if in working conditon?

Thanks for input! :)

[stevesklar]

Does it have an "S" brace between the body and bell?

The S brace Signets are very nice sounding horns, a version of a Buescher after Selmer USA bought them. The Signets without the S brace, if i recall correctly, are more student horns.

here's some basic information
http://www.saxmaniax.com/snsax.htm

there was a Selmer USA serial number list i ran across a while ago but it doesn't exist anymore.

[bruce bailey]

I can only guess as these were probably the same as the Buescher 200. The Signet line was between the Bundy and Selmer Paris horns. Keep in mind that Bundy/Signet/Buescher were marketed under both trade names, but the horns were the same after the mid 60s until they started the Selmer USA line.
Based on all of this, I would guess yours was made around 1968.

[SaxParent]

Thanks for this input. Yes, it does have an S brace. We are havinig it looked at before making any decision. Great to have quick reply from knowledgeable forum members. :)

[BobD]

I had a Buescher 200 years ago. Today I own a Selmer Signet with the "S" brace and lefthand toneholes on the bell. It looks exactly like a Buescher Aristocrat from the late 40's early 50's. It's a much better horn than a 60's Buesher 200. I wouldn't call it a pro horn but definately better than most ROC beginners horns.

[bohosheets]

wow, a 200 year old Buescher. Did that have original laquer ? Which mpc played better on it, the Paul Revere silver or the George Washington wood :)

[BobD]

Should have written, "I had a Buescher 200, years ago."

[Grumps]

I had thought that the 'S' braced Signets were based on the Buescher 400 tooling (and the Bundy's based upon the Aristocrat). Signets are sturdy, dependable horns. Great for students and capable of much more. I got mine used when I was in 8th grade and played it at all levels including the bar circuit. Now my son has it and it's still going strong.

[stevesklar]

found my info:

and Grumps is CORRECT (assuming my info is correct) !!

The 400 eventually became the Signet and the Aristocrat became the Bundy. They had the same looks but different bore dimensions amongst other differences.

Some people also say that the Selmer USA horns of Buescher after 1963 weren't up to the quality of the earlier versions of beuscher.