View Full Version : Getting Logged Out too Often
CircaRevival
10-08-2005, 01:46 PM
Hello,
Usually I stay logged in almost the whole day, and I usually visit the forum two to three times a day. Now I get logged out just from switching pages. Just wondering if this is happening to other people, or if there is a way to keep me logged in a little longer.
Thanks,
CR
It's been happening to me this week.
It's frustrating because it can happen before I've gone through the "new posts" list and then you have to plow through the entire forum topic list looking for the most current entries.
saxmanglen
10-08-2005, 03:58 PM
One way to deal with it partially is to use the "quick links" drop down menu up above and select "todays posts".
I'm sure Pete will chime in witht the true solution.
edited: My bad. Never mind.
Before or after the 3.5 upgrade?
If you don't click the "log me in automagically" link (and, for heven's sake, why not?? :)), you're logged off after (checking setting) 900 seconds. The verbiage also says, "If you remain idle, your cookie will be reset and all unread posts will be marked read."
Everyone should click on the "Log Me In Automatically" box if they're having any kind of login problem. If you're on a public computer, just click "log off" when you're done.
Notes:
* At work, I have to have the "Log me in automatically" box checked. Something to do with how the firewall is configured there that causes problems.
* As pointed out, if you're just interested in the unread posts, I created two "search profiles" under Quick Links: search for all unanswered posts ad search for unanswered posts NO SALES posts.
2thmechanic
10-09-2005, 02:01 AM
Where is it?
CircaRevival
10-09-2005, 02:39 AM
I believe he's talking about the "Remember Me?" box in the log in screen. Right? :|
Sorry; using phpBB too long. Yes, it's called "Remember Me?"
CircaRevival
10-09-2005, 06:22 PM
I seem to be staying logged in now. I could have sworn I always used the Remember Me box before...:?
Thanks, saxpics :D
jazzbluescat
10-09-2005, 08:42 PM
Also, I thought the remember me button is supposed to remember your password after normal logging off, for future log-in. It doesn't. I have to enter my password every time that I log on. What's with that?
Also, I thought the remember me button is supposed to remember your password after normal logging off, for future log-in. It doesn't. I have to enter my password every time that I log on. What's with that?
In a way of speaking it does: your password's activated by the cookie on your computer. Your password itself is in an encrypted database entry on the SQL server. In other words, you never see the username/password being entered, you're just logged in.
In any event, if you've logged in once and clicked "remember me", you should never see the "Username" and "Password" boxes -- unless a) you clicked on the the thing that says "log off" or b) you're usening a different computer. As said, it's all stored in that cookie.
If you want youtr browser to remember your username and password and type them into the box, I think you can do that with today's newer browsers. That won't help with the "it logs me off" problem.
If your computer is not set up to accept cookies or you've altered your cookie settings, you'll have problems logging on.
(Of course I'm also reminded of getting e-mails from folks that say, "I can't send e-mail.")
Bottom line: if you're havening problems logging in or staying logged in ....
* Clear your Internet cache and delete cookies.
* Set your cookie settings to defaults in your browser.
* Log back in here and remember to click on "Remember me".
* No need for you to ever click "log off", unless you're on a public computer. If you do, you will have to log back in the next time you come here.
* Don't use your browser's features to remember username/password.
CircaRevival
10-10-2005, 12:31 AM
Yes, resetting my browser to "Allow Cookies" made it so I stayed logged in.
jazzbluescat
10-10-2005, 07:54 PM
......In any event, if you've logged in once and clicked "remember me", you should never see the "Username" and "Password" boxes -- unless a) you clicked on the the thing that says "log off" or b) you're usening a different computer. As said, it's all stored in that cookie.
......
Given: remember me is checked. If I leave, don't log off and return, I'm still logged in. If I log off, when I come back, I'm still logged off, of course. I then right click the username box, get a dropdown menu that I ignore and click a space in the username box, get a menu of my various usernames, click on the one I want and it appears in its box. Then I [have to] type my password in the password box, then click enter. Now, using this approach on other sites, my password is entered automatically into its box upon my entering the username. [Sites other that vBulletin too.] This is why I'm wondering why my password doesn't enter automatically upon entering the username here[like other sites].
I'll look into the cookies thing some more. Darned if I can see how to get the cookies to accommodate more, or whatever.
Is the same thing that's called "timing out" or something different? I used to be able to keep my "new posts" as long as I stayed on SOTW. If I turned my computer off and came back, I got the new posts only since my last visit. But now, I'm losing the new posts while I am logged in and on SOTW.
Advice anyone?
Say again?
If I turned my computer off and came back, I got the new posts only since my last visit.That's what's supposed to happen.
But now, I'm losing the new posts while I am logged in and on SOTW.
Yes, if you're idle for 900 seconds.
Am I missing something?
Given: remember me is checked. If I leave, don't log off and return, I'm still logged in. You're going too far. If you click on the box that says "remember me" and then you click "log off", it's as if you just clicked something that says "No, I really want you to forget me instead".
All "remember me" essentially does is logs you in automagically when you browse to http://forum.saxontheweb.net. It just does it better than using your browser's password manager or whatever.
>>> Your "unread threads" or whatever are still reset if you don't do anything for 900 seconds. And typing madly doesn't count. <<<
Someone's gonna ask me why I don't change the timeout to 90000 or something. It's because that would kill the SQL server and that would be a bad thing.
That's what's supposed to happen.Yep. I was just using that to draw a contrast between being logged out and timing out.
Yes, if you're idle for 900 seconds.Me? Idle? Paralized at times, would be more accurate! 8-)
So if I'm writing a post that's taking me more than 15 minutes, what should I do to beat the system? Jump to another post for a moment and then return or toggle between something? Will that work? Thanks.
So if I'm writing a post that's taking me more than 15 minutes, what should I do to beat the system? Jump to another post for a moment and then return or toggle between something? Will that work? Thanks.
I've essayed that question to the folks over at vBulletin. I think the answer is going to be a combination of:
* Click on "remember me"
* Use the "Quick Links" dropdown and use the "Search for Unanswered Posts" or "New Posts" (yes, I could create more. I'm thinkening about one that's "view all posts in the last 24 hours")
* Make sure you hit the "Preview" buton before you post.
And yes, there's a difference between "logging out", which essentially means you're booted off the system and we don't know if we'll ever hear from you again and "timing out", which means that you haven't done anything in a certain amount of time and the server doesn't want to think about you anymore, so it's gone to sleep, but hasn't completely forgotten about you.
... and they respond so quickly.
ANSWER: yes, there is a setting. BAD NEWS: it's server intensive.
Remember when I mentioned before that if I set the forum timeout to 90000 it'd be a bad thing because it'd kill the SQL server? That's essentially what they recommend doing if you want to keep your orange icons.
And it's a new setting for vBulletin 3.5.
Verbiage:
This option controls how threads and forums are marked as read.
Inactivity/Cookie Based - once a user has been inactive for a certain amount of time (the value of the cookie timeout option) all threads and forums are considered read. Individual threads are marked as read within a session via cookies.
This option is how all versions of vBulletin before 3.5 functioned.
Database (no automatic forum marking) - this option uses the database to store thread and forum read times. This allows accurate read markers to be kept indefinitely. However, in order for a forum to be marked read when all threads are read, the user must view the list of threads for that forum.
This option is more space and processor intensive than inactivity-based marking.
Database (automatic forum marking) - this option is the same as a previous option, but forums are automatically marked as read when the last new thread is read.
This is the most usable option for end users, but most processor intensive.We, of course, currently have the first option turned on. You want the last most.
There IS also a time out associated with this and all your forums are marked read, it's just that it's a time-out measured in days, not seconds.
I'm not really wantening to stress out A Small Orange's servers. IF we try it at some time, I'd want to talk with Harri and ASO before usening this option and then test the response time here, quite intensely (pun).
Someone want to donate a couple hundred a month for a dedicated SQL server?
...And yes, there's a difference between "logging out", which essentially means you're booted off the system and we don't know if we'll ever hear from you again and "timing out", which means that you haven't done anything in a certain amount of time and the server doesn't want to think about you anymore, so it's gone to sleep, but hasn't completely forgotten about you.LOL. And a colorful set of definitions if ever there was one.
I get such limited opportunities to exercise my expertise in creative writing :).
(I write way too many tech documents.)
jazzbluescat
10-11-2005, 07:38 PM
You're going too far. If you click on the box that says "remember me" and then you click "log off", it's as if you just clicked something that says "No, I really want you to forget me instead".
All "remember me" essentially does is logs you in automagically when you browse to http://forum.saxontheweb.net. It just does it better than using your browser's password manager or whatever.
.......
Alls I know is on other boards I can right click Username, click on the username from the given list and the Password is entered automatically with the Username. I assumed it had something to do with the Remember Me box, silly me.
[BTW, one of the boards is not as sophisticated as this one, so I reckon it's a compatibility settings/thing.]
CMelodyMan
10-17-2005, 03:55 AM
This weekend I was going on the Web on a computer that uses dial up, and I'd log on here, and then when I'd be automatically logged out!!??!? I tryed this several times and it always did the same thing. But now that I'm back on a DSL computer everything is fine.:) :? Any explanation?
This weekend I was going on the Web on a computer that uses dial up, and I'd log on here, and then when I'd be automatically logged out!!??!? I tryed this several times and it always did the same thing. But now that I'm back on a DSL computer everything is fine.:) :? Any explanation?
Because you were on a different computer that was probably configured incorrectly.
CMelodyMan
10-17-2005, 01:38 PM
Because you were on a different computer that was probably configured incorrectly.
That can't be....I've used that computer to go onto the Forum before...???
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