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cydad761
04-09-2003, 03:22 AM
I've been browsing the forum for a couple days and I think this could be a fun place to visit.

I was wondering if there were other players in my shoes, so to find out I'll share my life story. (just kidding, well partly anyway)

I started band in 5th grade in 1972 and had good competition right off the bat from a girl in my class who also plays sax. We both practiced pretty hard and became quite good by high school. I must point out that growing up in small town america (1000 in my town and 40 in my graduating class) did limit my exposure. I was fortunate to have a sax player for my band instructor until 9th grade and then a very good technical band instructor my last three years.

My biggest disappointment came when I got first alternate to ALL-State. I wanted that SOOOOOO Bad. However, three of my classmates made it!! Our little school had three in ALL State and one alternate and the bigger schools around us had maybe one or two each.

I did miss out on lessons from a saxophone pro and I never really was taught any music theory as far as chords and how to improvise. Jazz band was something we did for fun, no contests or special training available to me.

As a freshman at the State University I tried out for (and made) the wind ensemble with all the music majors. I went for an engineering degree and the better paycheck, but more on that later. I got to play a tenor Mark VI owned by the college that was the easiest blowing horn I've ever experienced.

Unfortunately, the demands of engineering school caused me to rethink things my second year and I tried out for Jazz band instead. I was second alto in Jazz III (they had five jazz bands and Jazz I was the best). I had a blast that fall and was all primed to take an improve class offered by one of the directors, but as luck would have it a required engineering class conflicted with both the improve class and jazz band so I had to quit at semester.

Junior year was booked solid with difficult classes and then Senior year I decided I couldn't pass up trying Jazz band again. I went in to audition, and the piece they put in front of me was one we played in Jazz III two years before. I flew through it with ease and I won the bari sax part in Jazz I. I was thrilled, until I found out that these were all music majors and they actually had time to practice outside of band rehearsal and they all looked down on the two engineers who played sax. It took the fun out of it and I quit at semester again.

I didn't play much for several years, and then pulled the old horn out to play at church and found that my lip was GONE!! The past 8 years or so I have practiced about once a month and played at church two or three times per year and while my lip is nothing compared to what it once was, at least I can play the range of the horn without killing myself.

My oldest son is now in high school playing the sax (selmer AS300), son number two is in 6th grade and chose trumpet (now baritone) and son number three chose trombone so someday we can have our own jazz band!!

I recently turned 40 and facing a mid-life crisis of sorts began to evaluate my life and where I've been and where I'm going. I have now realized that while my engineering degree has done well paying the bills, my career is very unrewarding to me. I dearly miss playing the saxophone and I plan to try to find some other local people to start a community band.

I own several instruments, a slightly bruised, but very playable, Martin "The Indiana" that I bought used in 1972 for $125. I used it until 11th grade when I bought an Armstrong 3010. I know this name isn't highly thought of, but that horn is still in almost mint condition and blows very freely and has good intonation top to bottom, so I really like it.

My last instrument is an old Lyon and Healy silver plated tenor that I'm almost certain is a Martin stencil horn from the late 20s. My grandfather played it in dance clubs in the 1930s and I got it from my grandmother a few years ago. It has basically been in storage since 1962. The octave key sticks a little and there are some missing felts and corks that make it pretty clunky, but it has a very nice warm mellow tone.

I plan to fix up the old tenor and indiana and would love to buy an older soprano or bari sax as well.

As an engineer, I am very technically oriented and I am strongly considering getting the sax repair kit from music medic and doing an overhaul myself.

So, anyone else in the hobby category here? I would love to share ideas and experiences with others who are like me, working one career and trying to fit some sax playing in on the side.

Looking forward to learning lots of good stuff from this forum.

Jeff

M Exner
04-09-2003, 04:25 AM
Welcome to the forum Jeff

Hope you will find will find us both informative and entertaining. We are truly a weird sort but you gotta love us.

Remember to check in everyday but don't loose that practice time. Spend more time on the horn than on the screen.

Tharruff
04-09-2003, 11:31 AM
Hi Jeff,

My story is very similar to yours except I played quite a bit of music throughout college even though being in the engineering school. There were several engineers in the college band and most of us pretty good musicians. The music majors at the college I went to were quite tolerant of the engineers.

I even joined a fledgling big band fronted by another guy from the same university (a business major, then a JD) and played weekends with those guys for 26 years. We were (are) pretty popular in the area.

I'm a little older than you (45) but I want out of engineering at this point in my life. I work for a company that puts fluid filling machines into auto assembly plants and I have just had it with the job after 21 years.

My wife and I moved far away from our previous home last year but I am still working as an engineer for the same company from my new home over the internet. Of course I had to quit the band because I moved. I haven't found any place to play in my new home area yet.

I have been interested in becoming a musical instrument repairman all of my life and have overhauled numerous saxes and clarinets over the years for myself and for friends. I don't have all of the equipment so there are some things I just can't do. So I take those items down to the local music store for 'subcontracting'. Because of your background you should probably not be too afraid to work on your own horns. Just be careful.

I am hoping to work things out such that I can open a small woodwind shop doing repairs and buying and selling saxophones and clarinets at some point in the future. We'll see how it goes...

pathfinder33
09-20-2007, 03:35 PM
I haven't played sax for more than twenty years. However after trying to find a Selmer, I finally found a store that has them, the sponsor of this site.:D All the other web sellers were either out of them or had some other excuse, like a strike. But finally I'm getting a new horn and I hope to be playing again soon. I've picked up some tips from this thread on overcoming the difficulties. Whoever posted the recommended listening material for learning or relearning, thanks.

DanPerezSax
09-20-2007, 05:41 PM
I don't know how they look upon linking to other sites on this forum, but there was a thread a while back on the "Saxology" myspace group by a guy who was an engineer and "hobbyist" who did his own overhauls.  If you search the archives there, the thread is called, "Repads. Ripoff." It was started by "Davesax" on May 31st. Some of the stuff posted on that thread may be of help to you, and maybe one of those guys can give advice about doing the repairs.

Personally, I take it to my repairman for everything... I just figure he knows better.