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colibri
04-01-2003, 02:20 AM
Which one is considered a paint-peeler?
Dr G
04-01-2003, 08:51 PM
... and which of these might be considered a doorstop? :lol:
Joseph Boucher
04-02-2003, 02:22 AM
Vandoren Jumbo Java A95 for Alto. Joe
Andrew
04-02-2003, 07:30 AM
Dukoff is still the brightest I have gotten my hands on...
Joseph Boucher
04-02-2003, 12:04 PM
I agree with 'Andrew' on the Dukoff. I mentioned the Jumbo Java because I thought 'colibri' was asking about a 'good' paint peeling mpc. I have a Dukoff D6 and it was overkill. Joe.
tomsch
04-02-2003, 05:00 PM
I had a Barone Rock/Fusion mpc that would tear a hole in your eardrum.
colibri
04-02-2003, 05:12 PM
5 votes in the "other" category. I'm assuming this is the Guardala series?
mostly alto guy
04-02-2003, 07:32 PM
Dukoff D6 on an SX90R (tenor). Not only peels paint, but can drill holes in glass. And it annoys neighbors better than any other combination.
Keith Ridenhour
04-03-2003, 12:58 AM
No piece has ever come close to the Rovner Deep V metal piece. Loud without an ounce of warmth. I played it once and then back in the box and goodbye. K
Merlin
04-03-2003, 02:33 AM
A Britone tenor m/p. Doesn't look that bright at first glance...but.
RS
04-03-2003, 06:25 AM
A Runyon metal Smoothbore was the loudest alto piece I ever played. Unbelievably loud. Played pretty well too, but I sent it back to WW/BW. Sort of wished I'd kept now. Was actually sort of fun to play. Just didn't have the richness of my Meyer.
MartinMusicMan
03-27-2008, 07:53 PM
Other. I have no experience with the listed pieces. My vintage Berg Larsen stainless is pretty loud. My vintage Brilhart was even louder but I stopped playing it because it had TOO much edge, if such a thing is possible. It would crack windows and make the fillings in your teeth rattle.
whaler
03-27-2008, 08:28 PM
I'm grinding my teeth just thinking of an amatuer saxophone player with one of these stuck in his mouth. I'm surprised that Berg and Guardala aren't on the list. I can scare guitar players with my Crescent and the right (wrong?) reed.
cjpts
03-27-2008, 09:02 PM
there's also Claude Lakeys and Runyon Quantums - they easily outpower a Jumbo Java.

Still, I'm very tempted to get a Dukoff to compete against a lot of brass players - its interesting trying to compete against 8 brass players being the only alto one player!
Graftonsax
03-27-2008, 09:20 PM
Other. I have no experience with the listed pieces. My vintage Berg Larsen stainless is pretty loud. My vintage Brilhart was even louder but I stopped playing it because it had TOO much edge, if such a thing is possible. It would crack windows and make the fillings in your teeth rattle.

I'll ditto the Brilhart level air. I've got 2 tenor and one bari will probably be for sale soon, too much power for my needs.
saintsday
03-27-2008, 10:01 PM
I'll ditto the ditto, even though I'm not a dittohead.
Mark5047
03-27-2008, 10:12 PM
I'll ditto the ditto, even though I'm not a dittohead.

What he said...
Jolle
03-28-2008, 05:17 PM
I'm surprised that Berg and Guardala aren't on the list. I can scare guitar players with my Crescent and the right (wrong?) reed.

Berg, why Berg? You don't peel paint with a chainsaw, I hope?
MartinMusicMan
03-28-2008, 05:22 PM
Berg, why Berg? You don't peel paint with a chainsaw, I hope?
I have NO idea what that means.
BlueTrane2028
03-28-2008, 06:54 PM
What's the difference between a bari sax and a chainsaw?

-The chainsaw is easier to tune

I think that's what he's getting at.
martysax
03-28-2008, 07:35 PM
I have NO idea what that means.

Growler vs Squealer
Graftonsax
03-28-2008, 11:03 PM
Growler vs Squealer

Marty, leave my wife out of this!
martysax
03-29-2008, 12:08 AM
Marty, leave my wife out of this!

Wife?

My wife's from Cleveland. Born 1962.

Serial # 388something.
saintsday
03-29-2008, 04:02 AM
Wife?

My wife's from Cleveland. Born 1962.

Serial # 388something.

I had one like that. Played pretty well.
MartinMusicMan
03-29-2008, 06:13 AM
Growler vs Squealer
If that's the distinction being made, then Jolle's remark "Berg, why Berg? You don't peel paint with a chainsaw, I hope?" is misinformed. This is even the subject of another recent thread, "Dukoff vs. Berg Larsen Metal Tenor Mpcs". The last post in that thread is from Baphomet saying, "I know they're both good choices for peeling the paint of the wall ..."
LateNiteSax
03-29-2008, 07:10 AM
Anyone had experience with ARB alto mouthpieces ala Nelson Rangel?
goodsax
03-29-2008, 01:36 PM
Interesting thread, but I was wondering, given any of these pieces/setups, how much the horn makes the difference in power and projection? IOW, you might have a paint-peeling setup, but might some horns dampen the effect relative to others?
nachoman
03-29-2008, 01:44 PM
Haven't you guys ever played on a Runyon Smoothbore AKA "Spoiler"? Those things strip paint, remove rust and generally shreak like a banshee- er... in a good way!
stu the sax player
03-29-2008, 02:39 PM
The stainless steel Dukoff 8* I received from ThunderWhale
stu the sax player
03-29-2008, 02:40 PM
Anyone had experience with ARB alto mouthpieces ala Nelson Rangel?

I also received a ARB alto mouthpiece from ThunderWhale and it was great reminded of the tone of a morgan large chamber piece
Martin Williams
03-29-2008, 03:04 PM
I used to have a clear plastic Dukoff, that screamed 7 ways to Sunday. Bright to the point that I had no chance of blending in a sax section, and thats on a Martin Tenor, a fairly dark horn!
CountSpatula
03-30-2008, 06:54 AM
Haven't you guys ever played on a Runyon Smoothbore AKA "Spoiler"? Those things strip paint, remove rust and generally shreak like a banshee- er... in a good way!

A kitten to the Dukoff and Jumbo Java I use to have...*shrugs*
Graftonsax
03-30-2008, 12:57 PM
I had one like that. Played pretty well.

Mines a later model, just pre Mexico, still in decent shape. Had one Saints? Did you lose here, I know I thought your Bundy could have been mine, as far as I know my wife isn't yours, is there a way to tell? Any missing lacquer or dents that are distinct?
saintsday
03-30-2008, 01:07 PM
Mine was stamped Made in Hungary.:D
Graftonsax
03-30-2008, 01:12 PM
Mine was stamped Made in Hungary.:D

I'll keep looking.
Baphomet
03-30-2008, 08:25 PM
If that's the distinction being made, then Jolle's remark "Berg, why Berg? You don't peel paint with a chainsaw, I hope?" is misinformed. This is even the subject of another recent thread, "Dukoff vs. Berg Larsen Metal Tenor Mpcs". The last post in that thread is from Baphomet saying, "I know they're both good choices for peeling the paint of the wall ..."

I certainly wouldn't go by anything Baphomet says!:D
ThunderWhale
04-04-2008, 08:53 PM
Strathon Adjustatone


I use one of these, and it might be the loudest piece on the planet, but it still has full sounding core sound! Really nice piece! I have one made in West Germany with the nice older rubber they used to have.
Mactenor
04-05-2008, 06:16 PM
No piece has ever come close to the Rovner Deep V metal piece. Loud without an ounce of warmth. I played it once and then back in the box and goodbye. K

My experience with a Rovner Deep V was just the opposite. On a Martim Tenor ( which I wish I had'nt parted with ) the setup could be very powerful, but it also had a warm side. My "paint peeler" is a Delrin Runyon Quantum #14 opening. Lord have Mercy.
George