soldered tone-hole kohlert?

[vick]

I always thought kohlert rolled their tone holes but these look soldered to me

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[spiderjames]

They do in fact look soldered. I've never seen a kohlert before with soldered tone holes but the Winnenden model is one I haven't seen up close. There is a thread just below this one in the kohlert section where Pete @ saxpics talks about a kohlert with bevelled tone holes.

[soreliprick]

I'll let you know the quality of the soldered-on tone hole seams when it gets here later this week. Forced by an amphibious assault into going European, I have my doubts whether this sax will stand up against my Martins and Buescher. Let the chips fall where they will.

[soreliprick]

The Kohlert Winnenden Tenor, serial # 808x, has arrived. I'm more confused than ever after reading up on Kohlerts. Its got "The Martin" type soldered on toneholes, must have been made around 1950, and seems to be goldplated. I can't imagine its really gold, but TarnX is making it shine and what little spots there are, are disappearing. The bell engraving is completely without any kind of 'Buescher' engraving degradation, the soft white cloth turns black, I've even got a small spot of silver on the side Bb.

[stitch]

I've even got a small spot of silver on the side Bb.

It's not possible to plate gold directly to brass - it has to be silver-plated first. Hence the silver showing through in worn areas.

[soreliprick]

Well, its apart, new pads in, all polished up, and all the spots are gone, and it sure looks like gold to me. I'm stoked!

[soreliprick]

Well, the finish might only be polished brass, but the performance matches my '55 Buescher 'Crat and '48 Martin 'The' It has a manual G# which comes in handy for some dim chords and with a slight move of the pinkie I can get it to mimic auto. The palm keys are already built up higher than the other two which makes me want to get risers for them. I'd recommend Kohlert for anyone wishing to 'go euro'. 8-)

[bruce bailey]

The first soprano I ever saw/played was a Kohlert from about 1960 that had drawn and rolled holes with gold lacquer. It belonged the the US Armyin Germany and sold new for about $95. That horn made me become a sax player. I heard a guy play it and fell in love (with the horn not the guy).