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hbl
User ID: 0171704 Jun 3rd 3:00 PM
Shall we include the marvelous Kielwerth made Couf Superba I and II in this discussion area? By all means, I say!

Thomas
User ID: 8032783 Jun 3rd 3:18 PM
I bought my Couf/Keilwerth Superba soprano new in 1976.It is without doubt the finest soprano I've ever owned,played or heard.There are no negative issues at all with this horn.My backup sop is an SA80Serie II.It's an ok horn but will never surpass the Couf.Currently using a Bari HR 70,with Superial 2/ 1/2's on both,playing jazz.

jjgold
User ID: 0108854 Jun 3rd 3:46 PM
I have a Superba 1 Tenor and Alto. I also have a Royalist that I gave to my niece. That Royalist was better than my Series III when I had one. Once you have experienced this horn you may never go back. Need to find a Soprano for my collection!

jjgold
User ID: 0108854 Jun 3rd 3:46 PM
should have read these horns!

Frank
User ID: 0638514 Jun 3rd 10:01 PM
In got my Black Nickel Superba 1 soprano a few months ago after a long search. A wonderful horn in every way, it was worth the wait.

Fred
User ID: 9990163 Jun 4th 3:55 AM
I play a black nickel superba 1 tenor. Great horn!!

JTS
User ID: 9279843 Jun 4th 6:04 PM
I have a black nickel and a regular lacquer Superba 1. I tried a modern Keilwerth and opted to stay with my Coufs.It appears the Couf's are starting to develop a larger following. Excellent horns.

Tom S
User ID: 0840444 Jun 4th 7:03 PM
I've played my Couf SuperbaI as my main tenor since I bought it new in 1981. Over the years I have tried quite a few other tenors but continue to stick with the Couf.

SteveC
User ID: 9627953 Jun 4th 10:30 PM
I play James Houlik's old Couf Superba One tenor. I love this sax! It caused me to sell my reference 36, that's how good it is. right now, it's in for an overhaul that includes satin silver ody with bright silver keys, neck and artwork, with gold in the bell. I should have her back in two weeks. I can't wait!!!

I am now thinking of picking up a Superba one alto to go with it. Getting the same plating done as well.

Docax
User ID: 0178794 Jun 4th 11:07 PM
SteveC, if you don't mind, who's doing the overhaul on your Couf (and how are his/her prices)?

More generally, are Couf's uncommon enough that some even experienced techs are unfamiliar with them?

Thanks

SteveC
User ID: 9627953 Jun 4th 11:15 PM
My local shop is doing the overhaul. they preped the horn and sent it to Anderson silver plating. We just got the neck, keys and key guards back. I can't wait for the rest! As far as price goes, i'm not sure. I am providing some services to the shop and they are providing work on my horn. I'm guessing around $500 if i was paying up front.

I think most techs know what to do woth them. they are not that different from other brands.

Tom S
User ID: 0840444 Jun 5th 11:24 AM
SteveC - What type of pads/resos are you planning for the overhaul? My Couf is in need of an overhaul real soon (as in NOW).

Txsaxkat
User ID: 9670323 Jun 5th 5:04 PM
I overhauled my sx90r a year ago and got the factory pads removed the resos and installed brass flat resos I got from Ken Beasen great combo.I did install the factory pads first and didnt like the results so replaced the resos!I you get a chance try some brass resos!

super20dan
User ID: 0255034 Jun 5th 6:41 PM
selling my couf superba 1 tenor was the biggest mistake of my life. eaisly the best tenor i ever owned.

john
User ID: 7873223 Jun 5th 8:03 PM
Txsaxkat, do you have a contact number for Ken? I've got a superba that needs some work.

It's OK to send it to me off list- johnhall@earthlink.net

thanks,

john

sayoung
User ID: 8387983 Jun 20th 6:20 PM
Good looking Superba I alto going on e-bay with a $1,000 buy-it-now - not bad!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=887327316

BATMAN
User ID: 9851073 Jun 21st 3:30 AM
The best tenor I ever played was a Couf Superba I that was once Herb's. Apparently the store I get my stuff repaired at was once owned by Herb Couf. Anyway, I knew the current owner and he knew I needed a tenor, so he offered the horn for $1600, which was a few hundred under what it was listed for. Unfortunately, I had NO $$$, and my mom couldn't afford the horn... :(

Long story short, it was the best tenor I think I've ever played...wish I had money back in the day! My MK VI is great, and plays just like I would want a tenor to play...but that couf had a much bigger and darker sound...

Even though it's been a while, I still remember that horn!

SteveC
User ID: 1523284 Jun 21st 11:51 PM
One more week and i get my SB1 back. I can hardly wait. I'll put pix on my web site when she is done.

jazzage
User ID: 2177844 Aug 8th 11:07 AM
A question on Couf history: are the Royalist 1 & 2 horns Keilwerth-made, or if not how are they comparable to the Superba models in design and sound?

Edo
User ID: 1014104 Aug 25th 9:00 PM
Now that you mention it...

Are the Royalist 1 & 2 student horns or something?? Any ideas of tone, value, etc?

How do they differ to each other and to other Couf?

Next 20 Messages

hbl User ID: 0171704	Jun 3rd 3:00 PM Shall we include the marvelous Kielwerth made Couf Superba I and II in this discussion area? By all means, I say!
Thomas User ID: 8032783	Jun 3rd 3:18 PM I bought my Couf/Keilwerth Superba soprano new in 1976.It is without doubt the finest soprano I've ever owned,played or heard.There are no negative issues at all with this horn.My backup sop is an SA80Serie II.It's an ok horn but will never surpass the Couf.Currently using a Bari HR 70,with Superial 2/ 1/2's on both,playing jazz.
jjgold User ID: 0108854	Jun 3rd 3:46 PM I have a Superba 1 Tenor and Alto. I also have a Royalist that I gave to my niece. That Royalist was better than my Series III when I had one. Once you have experienced this horn you may never go back. Need to find a Soprano for my collection!
jjgold User ID: 0108854	Jun 3rd 3:46 PM should have read these horns!
Frank User ID: 0638514	Jun 3rd 10:01 PM In got my Black Nickel Superba 1 soprano a few months ago after a long search. A wonderful horn in every way, it was worth the wait.
Fred User ID: 9990163	Jun 4th 3:55 AM I play a black nickel superba 1 tenor. Great horn!!
JTS User ID: 9279843	Jun 4th 6:04 PM I have a black nickel and a regular lacquer Superba 1. I tried a modern Keilwerth and opted to stay with my Coufs.It appears the Couf's are starting to develop a larger following. Excellent horns.
Tom S User ID: 0840444	Jun 4th 7:03 PM I've played my Couf SuperbaI as my main tenor since I bought it new in 1981. Over the years I have tried quite a few other tenors but continue to stick with the Couf.
SteveC User ID: 9627953	Jun 4th 10:30 PM I play James Houlik's old Couf Superba One tenor. I love this sax! It caused me to sell my reference 36, that's how good it is. right now, it's in for an overhaul that includes satin silver ody with bright silver keys, neck and artwork, with gold in the bell. I should have her back in two weeks. I can't wait!!! I am now thinking of picking up a Superba one alto to go with it. Getting the same plating done as well.
Docax User ID: 0178794	Jun 4th 11:07 PM SteveC, if you don't mind, who's doing the overhaul on your Couf (and how are his/her prices)? More generally, are Couf's uncommon enough that some even experienced techs are unfamiliar with them? Thanks
SteveC User ID: 9627953	Jun 4th 11:15 PM My local shop is doing the overhaul. they preped the horn and sent it to Anderson silver plating. We just got the neck, keys and key guards back. I can't wait for the rest! As far as price goes, i'm not sure. I am providing some services to the shop and they are providing work on my horn. I'm guessing around $500 if i was paying up front. I think most techs know what to do woth them. they are not that different from other brands.
Tom S User ID: 0840444	Jun 5th 11:24 AM SteveC - What type of pads/resos are you planning for the overhaul? My Couf is in need of an overhaul real soon (as in NOW).
Txsaxkat User ID: 9670323	Jun 5th 5:04 PM I overhauled my sx90r a year ago and got the factory pads removed the resos and installed brass flat resos I got from Ken Beasen great combo.I did install the factory pads first and didnt like the results so replaced the resos!I you get a chance try some brass resos!
super20dan User ID: 0255034	Jun 5th 6:41 PM selling my couf superba 1 tenor was the biggest mistake of my life. eaisly the best tenor i ever owned.
john User ID: 7873223	Jun 5th 8:03 PM Txsaxkat, do you have a contact number for Ken? I've got a superba that needs some work. It's OK to send it to me off list- johnhall@earthlink.net thanks, john
sayoung User ID: 8387983	Jun 20th 6:20 PM Good looking Superba I alto going on e-bay with a $1,000 buy-it-now - not bad! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=887327316
BATMAN User ID: 9851073	Jun 21st 3:30 AM The best tenor I ever played was a Couf Superba I that was once Herb's. Apparently the store I get my stuff repaired at was once owned by Herb Couf. Anyway, I knew the current owner and he knew I needed a tenor, so he offered the horn for $1600, which was a few hundred under what it was listed for. Unfortunately, I had NO $$$, and my mom couldn't afford the horn... :( Long story short, it was the best tenor I think I've ever played...wish I had money back in the day! My MK VI is great, and plays just like I would want a tenor to play...but that couf had a much bigger and darker sound... Even though it's been a while, I still remember that horn!
SteveC User ID: 1523284	Jun 21st 11:51 PM One more week and i get my SB1 back. I can hardly wait. I'll put pix on my web site when she is done.
jazzage User ID: 2177844	Aug 8th 11:07 AM A question on Couf history: are the Royalist 1 & 2 horns Keilwerth-made, or if not how are they comparable to the Superba models in design and sound?
Edo User ID: 1014104	Aug 25th 9:00 PM Now that you mention it... Are the Royalist 1 & 2 student horns or something?? Any ideas of tone, value, etc? How do they differ to each other and to other Couf?