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shazzo
User ID: 9544623 Oct 10th 8:48 PM
does anyone have this problem? my front E is rather flat. i know bootman told to try and pitch it using the throat, but i'm just curious if anyone else has had the same problem.
thanks!

paulwl
User ID: 1884774 Oct 10th 9:17 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't it true that front E is not a universally used fingering? I believe it's mostly taught in connection with altissimo, and if so, that's probably because it has to be voiced to work.

I wish I could help you further, but I don't use front E (although I'm now curious to try!).

J. Calhoun
User ID: 1244314 Oct 11th 8:22 AM
On my horns -

6M - front E is flat, unresponsive. Front F is responsive and perfectly in tune.

10M - front E and front F are responsive and perfectly in tune.

12M - front E is flat, unresponsive. Front F is responsive and perfectly in tune.

I believe there are similarities in the 6M and 12M whereas I suspect the 10M is more akin to the older Conn saxes.

Finally, I have had excellent results with an alternate front E on all three:

Finger as if G#, but add the side high E key.

Bootman
User ID: 7601343 Oct 11th 3:46 PM
I have had similar problems with the Fron E on the 12M Tranny Bari here (read aftermarket front F key added and working perfectly), Front F, F#, G all perfectly in tune and full sounding. Front E is Flat. I use the palm key or use the throat to bring the Front E into pitch.

Never had a problem on the Conn Altos (pre 6M models) or the tenors I have had here.

The G# key venting the E will work. This will give you an E3 on a Conn Bass sax, overblowing a 6th.

shazzo
User ID: 9544623 Oct 15th 5:58 AM
hhhm, so i finger the G# & just add the E palm key? ok, i'll try it out.
thanks

shazzo User ID: 9544623	Oct 10th 8:48 PM does anyone have this problem? my front E is rather flat. i know bootman told to try and pitch it using the throat, but i'm just curious if anyone else has had the same problem. thanks!
paulwl User ID: 1884774	Oct 10th 9:17 PM Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't it true that front E is not a universally used fingering? I believe it's mostly taught in connection with altissimo, and if so, that's probably because it has to be voiced to work. I wish I could help you further, but I don't use front E (although I'm now curious to try!).
J. Calhoun User ID: 1244314	Oct 11th 8:22 AM On my horns - 6M - front E is flat, unresponsive. Front F is responsive and perfectly in tune. 10M - front E and front F are responsive and perfectly in tune. 12M - front E is flat, unresponsive. Front F is responsive and perfectly in tune. I believe there are similarities in the 6M and 12M whereas I suspect the 10M is more akin to the older Conn saxes. Finally, I have had excellent results with an alternate front E on all three: Finger as if G#, but add the side high E key.
Bootman User ID: 7601343	Oct 11th 3:46 PM I have had similar problems with the Fron E on the 12M Tranny Bari here (read aftermarket front F key added and working perfectly), Front F, F#, G all perfectly in tune and full sounding. Front E is Flat. I use the palm key or use the throat to bring the Front E into pitch. Never had a problem on the Conn Altos (pre 6M models) or the tenors I have had here. The G# key venting the E will work. This will give you an E3 on a Conn Bass sax, overblowing a 6th.
shazzo User ID: 9544623	Oct 15th 5:58 AM hhhm, so i finger the G# & just add the E palm key? ok, i'll try it out. thanks